All, this subject and conversation in their current format have nothing whatsoever to do with Talks, please end this conversation thread thanks.
Twitter @neilbarnfather Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Elliott Barnes Sent: 20 September 2010 17:08 To: Talks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Talks] ovi maps for nokia n82 I totaly agree with Hussein here. Why should people have to purchase spasific devices just because Ovi Maps isn't compatable with the device that they've currently got? Seems rediculous to me. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hussein Patwa" <[email protected]> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <[email protected]> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 12:00:27 +0100 Subject: Re: [Talks] ovi maps for nokia n82 > So you assume that just because it doesn't cost anything that it's > automatically dodgy? > > And people wonder why I get annoyed about people jumping to conclusions and > not thinking outside the box. Is it any wonder one wonders twice about > whether it's worth their time on here? > > _______________________________________ > Have a pleasant day, > > Kind Regards and Best Wishes, > > Hussein. > > Hussein Patwa > Tel: 0789 47 595 62 (UK) > Tel: +44 (0)122 4433 954 (SIP) > Twitter: www.twitter.com/hussein_patwa > Skype: patwaspotterfan2 > GoogleTalk: thewanderingwriter > Web: www.patwanet.co.uk > My Blog: http://patwaspotterfan.livejournal.com > > Find me on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=510013486 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:talks- > > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Kit > > Sent: 20 September 2010 08:47 > > To: Talks Mailing List > > Subject: Re: [Talks] ovi maps for nokia n82 > > > > Hi Scot, > > > > If you want to use OVI on N82, you need to pay if you purchase through > > Nokia. So, when you get it for free just cause people do modification to > the > > file, what do you call that then? Crack or Hack, which ever way you want > to > > define it. > > > > I am not trying to be a moderator. I just merely bring up this cause they > > claim that this is a legal copy. > > > > Regards, > > KITT. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Scott Learned" <[email protected]> > > To: "Talks Mailing List" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 11:18 AM > > Subject: Re: [Talks] ovi maps for nokia n82 > > > > > > A Moderator now are we? > > > > There is quite a big difference between hacked and cracked. Google it. > > > > Scott > > > > "Coffee, the finest organic suspension ever devised." > > Captain Kathryn Janeway > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kit" <[email protected]> > > To: "Talks Mailing List" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 7:54 PM > > Subject: Re: [Talks] ovi maps for nokia n82 > > > > > > I would say that this is a hacked copy and further discussion should > not > > be > > allowed. Legal free copies of OVI maps is only for those models of phones > > which are mentioned in the Nokia Maps site. Send email to those > > interested > > privately. > > > > Regards, > > KITT.----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Christopher Chaltain" <[email protected]> > > To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 10:47 AM > > Subject: Re: [Talks] ovi maps for nokia n82 > > > > > > Hussein, > > > > I don't recall the incident you're talking about, but I find on/off topic > > discussions pretty tame on this list. Although this is technically off > > topic, I would assume the moderators would allow some leeway here > > (They're a > > pretty lenient bunch in general anyway.), since we have so few accessible > > GPS options on the Series 60 phones. Of course, if it's illegal in anyway, > > which you're saying it isn't, then there's no tolerance for that. > > > > > > -- > > Christopher > > [email protected] > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:talks- > > [email protected]] On > > Behalf Of Sabaruddin Isa > > Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 5:52 PM > > To: Talks Mailing List > > Subject: Re: [Talks] ovi maps for nokia n82 > > > > Hussein, kindly also help me with my N82 please. > > > > On 9/20/10, Hussein Patwa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Sure, I'll write to you off-list. Whereas the solution is in no way > > > illegal, it is way off topic in respect to Talks so I don't want to be > run > > > out of town on a rail for discussing it here. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > Have a pleasant day, > > > > > > Kind Regards and Best Wishes, > > > > > > Hussein. > > > > > > Hussein Patwa > > > Tel: 0789 47 595 62 (UK) > > > Tel: +44 (0)122 4433 954 (SIP) > > > Twitter: www.twitter.com/hussein_patwa > > > Skype: patwaspotterfan2 > > > GoogleTalk: thewanderingwriter > > > Web: www.patwanet.co.uk > > > My Blog: http://patwaspotterfan.livejournal.com > > > > > > Find me on Facebook: > > http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=510013486 > > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: [email protected] [mailto:talks- > > >> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Elliott Barnes > > >> Sent: 19 September 2010 20:33 > > >> To: Talks Mailing List > > >> Subject: Re: [Talks] ovi maps for nokia n82 > > >> > > >> Hi, > > >> Can you please explain how one would go about this? > > >> I've tried Googling, but can't find a working solution. > > >> Cheers. > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Hussein Patwa" <[email protected]> > > >> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <[email protected]> > > >> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 20:14:37 +0100 > > >> Subject: Re: [Talks] ovi maps for nokia n82 > > >> > > >> > Hi, > > >> > > > >> > Whereas this is technically correct, many people are using Ovi Maps > > 3.03 > > >> for > > >> > free on the N82. > > >> > > > >> > Let me just say that just because Nokia says it can't be done, > doesn't > > >> > actually mean it can't be done. I won't say any more, as the last > time > > > I > > >> > tried to help in this regard I seem to recall it all got rather > heated > > > and > > >> > blown out of all proportion. > > >> > > > >> > Just to say it took me 3 minutes with bing to find how to do it, and > > >> another > > >> > 3 to verify that it wasn't just someone pulling a fast one. > > >> > > > >> > HTH. > > >> > > > >> > _______________________________________ > > >> > Have a pleasant day, > > >> > > > >> > Kind Regards and Best Wishes, > > >> > > > >> > Hussein. > > >> > > > >> > Hussein Patwa > > >> > Tel: 0789 47 595 62 (UK) > > >> > Tel: +44 (0)122 4433 954 (SIP) > > >> > Twitter: www.twitter.com/hussein_patwa > > >> > Skype: patwaspotterfan2 > > >> > GoogleTalk: thewanderingwriter > > >> > Web: www.patwanet.co.uk > > >> > My Blog: http://patwaspotterfan.livejournal.com > > >> > > > >> > Find me on Facebook: > > >> http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=510013486 > > >> > > > >> > > -----Original Message----- > > >> > > From: [email protected] [mailto:talks- > > >> > > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephen Giggar > > >> > > Sent: 18 September 2010 23:19 > > >> > > To: Talks Mailing List > > >> > > Subject: Re: [Talks] ovi maps for nokia n82 > > >> > > > > >> > > This isn't for the free one that I know of. This is for 3.01 and > not > > >> 3.03 > > >> > or > > >> > > 3.04 which are the free ones. The later firmware for the N82 comes > > > with > > >> > 3.01 > > >> > > already built into it I think. So if you are looking for the free > OVI > > >> > maps, > > >> > > this isn't it and like I said will not work on the N82, N95* > models, > > I > > >> can > > >> > > see this is the case for other Symbian 9.2 phones and also will not > > > work > > >> > on > > >> > > Symbian 9.1 phones either. So if you ahve the N82 and you are > > wanting > > >> the > > >> > > FREE OVI maps on the N82 you are out of luck as far as I can tell. > > >> > > > > >> > > Signed: Stephen Giggar > > >> > > Skype: dr-phone. > > >> > > > > >> > > Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works. > > >> > > No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design. > > >> > > > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> > > From: "Edward" <[email protected]> > > >> > > To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <[email protected]> > > >> > > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 4:36 PM > > >> > > Subject: Re: [Talks] ovi maps for nokia n82 > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Hello, > > >> > > > > > >> > > > I followed the link that Hussein Patwa posted yesterday, it is > very > > >> > > > drastic, > > >> > > > and this is for only OVI 3.0. The thread pertains to Nokia N82. > I > > >> > would > > >> > > > advise anyone who wishes to perform these tasks, to proceed at > > there > > >> > > own > > >> > > > risk. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > The following is taken from: > > >> > > > http://discussions.europe.nokia.com/t5/Maps-Navigation-and- > > >> > > GPS/Cannot-instal > > >> > > > l-Ovi-Maps-3-0-on-N82/m-p/565145 > > >> > > > > > >> > > > It's a common problem with several Nokia S60 devices when > > updating > > >> > > native > > >> > > > Nokia Maps > > >> > > > built-into the native firmware to Ovi Maps 3. > > >> > > > Here's the only procedure to make it work: > > >> > > > 1. First of all, use a File manager to delete the folder called > > > cities > > >> > > > from > > >> > > > your > > >> > > > memory card root; also delete the file named qf found in root. > > >> > > > 2. Perform a full backup on internal phone memory using > > >> Backup/Restore > > >> > > > module from > > >> > > > Nokia PC Suite. > > >> > > > 3. Perform a hard reset on the device using the well-known > method: > > >> while > > >> > > > the > > >> > > > device > > >> > > > is turned off, press and hold these 3 keys: green (call), * > > > (asterisk) > > >> > and > > >> > > > 3 > > >> > > > (three) > > >> > > > and power on the device. Do not release these 3 keys until the > > >> animated > > >> > > > logo > > >> > > > (hands) > > >> > > > is shown. > > >> > > > 4. Now you need to launch the Nokia Maps application, then after > it > > >> > loads > > >> > > > completely > > >> > > > you can exit from the app; by doing this, cities folder and qf > file > > >> will > > >> > > > be > > >> > > > restored > > >> > > > on memory card' root. > > >> > > > 4. Now install/update your device with the latest Maps > application > > >> using > > >> > > > Setup_Nokia_Maps_Updater_1.0.10.exe > > >> > > > or using the *.sis package already owned by you. > > >> > > > 5. Also you may want to install you favourite country maps and > > > voices > > >> > for > > >> > > > guidance > > >> > > > using Nokia Map Loader. > > >> > > > 6. Restore your data from the prevoius backup file using Nokia PC > > >> Suite. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Edward > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- > > >> > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:talks- > > >> > > [email protected]] > > >> > > > On > > >> > > > Behalf Of Ketan Kothari > > >> > > > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 10:10 AM > > >> > > > To: Talks Mailing List > > >> > > > Subject: Re: [Talks] ovi maps for nokia n82 > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Hi Hussain, > > >> > > > > > >> > > > I got an error message when I tried opening the link. Please > help. > > >> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> > > > From: "Hussein Patwa" <[email protected]> > > >> > > > To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <[email protected]> > > >> > > > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 6:09 PM > > >> > > > Subject: Re: [Talks] ovi maps for nokia n82 > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> V3 can be installed, as detailed here: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > http://discussions.europe.nokia.com/t5/Maps-Navigation-and- > > >> > > GPS/Cannot-instal > > >> > > >> l-Ovi-Maps-3-0-on-N82/m-p/565145 > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> HTH. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________ > > >> > > >> Have a pleasant day, > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Kind Regards and Best Wishes, > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Hussein. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Hussein Patwa > > >> > > >> Tel: 0789 47 595 62 (UK) > > >> > > >> Tel: +44 (0)122 4433 954 (SIP) > > >> > > >> Twitter: www.twitter.com/hussein_patwa > > >> > > >> Skype: patwaspotterfan2 > > >> > > >> GoogleTalk: thewanderingwriter > > >> > > >> Web: www.patwanet.co.uk > > >> > > >> My Blog: http://patwaspotterfan.livejournal.com > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Find me on Facebook: > > >> > > http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=510013486 > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > >> > > >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:talks- > > >> > > >>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephen Giggar > > >> > > >>> Sent: 18 September 2010 11:16 > > >> > > >>> To: Talks Mailing List > > >> > > >>> Subject: Re: [Talks] ovi maps for nokia n82 > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> Nope OVI mass isn't available for the n82 or other Symbian 9.2 > > >> > devices. > > >> > > >>> So > > >> > > >>> the 3.3 version will not work. The n79 is a 9.3 device. > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> Produced on a Nokia N95 smart phone using a Symbian based > > screen > > >> > > reader. > > >> > > >>> Signed by: Stephen Giggar > > >> > > >>> Skype: dr-phone. > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works > > >> > > >>> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> -original message- > > >> > > >>> Subject: Re: [Talks] ovi maps for nokia n82 > > >> > > >>> From: "Hussein Patwa" <[email protected]> > > >> > > >>> Date: 18/09/2010 4:55 AM > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> Hi Fanus, > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> V3.4 has a bug in that it won't start on my N86. This is > > > apparently > > >> > > >>> something Nokia are well aware of and are working on. V3.3 > > works > > >> fine > > >> > > >>> though, so should also work on your N82. V3.6 is currently > only > > >> > > >>> available > > >> > > >>> for touch screen devices. > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> I'll have a look around, but you might also try the Nokia Beta > > > Labs > > >> > > >>> site. > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> HTH. > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> _______________________________________ > > >> > > >>> Have a pleasant day, > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> Kind Regards and Best Wishes, > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> Hussein. > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> Hussein Patwa > > >> > > >>> Tel: 0789 47 595 62 (UK) > > >> > > >>> Tel: +44 (0)122 4433 954 (SIP) > > >> > > >>> Twitter: www.twitter.com/hussein_patwa > > >> > > >>> Skype: patwaspotterfan2 > > >> > > >>> GoogleTalk: thewanderingwriter > > >> > > >>> Web: www.patwanet.co.uk > > >> > > >>> My Blog: http://patwaspotterfan.livejournal.com > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> Find me on Facebook: > > >> > > http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=510013486 > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > -----Original Message----- > > >> > > >>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:talks- > > >> > > >>> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of fanus > > >> > > >>> > Sent: 18 September 2010 10:00 > > >> > > >>> > To: Talks Mailing List > > >> > > >>> > Subject: Re: [Talks] ovi maps for nokia n82 > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >>> > Hello Hussein > > >> > > >>> > Someone told me that the latest version of ovi does not work > > >> > > >>> > on the n82 but that version 3.01 will work. I tried to > > >> > > >>> > google for that version to download but I cannot find a > > >> > > >>> > site. Do you perhaps know the url? > > >> > > >>> > Regards > > >> > > >>> > Fanus > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> > > >>> > From: "Hussein Patwa" <[email protected]> > > >> > > >>> > To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <[email protected]> > > >> > > >>> > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 1:00 AM > > >> > > >>> > Subject: Re: [Talks] ovi maps for nokia n82 > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >>> > Haven't used it with the N82, but maybe I can help as I now > > >> > > >>> > swear by it with > > >> > > >>> > the N86 and use it all the time for foot navigation. Is it > > >> > > >>> > an app specific > > >> > > >>> > or a phone specific problem? If the former I may be able to > > >> > > >>> > help. > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >>> > HTH. > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >>> > _______________________________________ > > >> > > >>> > Have a pleasant day, > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >>> > Kind Regards and Best Wishes, > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >>> > Hussein. > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >>> > Hussein Patwa > > >> > > >>> > Tel: 0789 47 595 62 (UK) > > >> > > >>> > Tel: +44 (0)122 4433 954 (SIP) > > >> > > >>> > Twitter: www.twitter.com/hussein_patwa > > >> > > >>> > Skype: patwaspotterfan2 > > >> > > >>> > GoogleTalk: thewanderingwriter > > >> > > >>> > Web: www.patwanet.co.uk > > >> > > >>> > My Blog: http://patwaspotterfan.livejournal.com > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >>> > Find me on Facebook: > > >> > > >>> > http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=510013486 > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >>> > > -----Original Message----- > > >> > > >>> > > From: [email protected] [mailto:talks- > > >> > > >>> > > [email protected]] On Behalf Of fanus > > >> > > >>> > > Sent: 17 September 2010 13:33 > > >> > > >>> > > To: Talks Mailing List > > >> > > >>> > > Subject: [Talks] ovi maps for nokia n82 > > >> > > >>> > > > > >> > > >>> > > Hi Listers > > >> > > >>> > > Has anyone used some or other version of ovi maps with the > > >> > > >>> > > nokia N82? > > >> > > >>> > > Regards > > >> > > >>> > > Fanus > > >> > > >>> > > > > >> > > >>> > > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > >>> > > Talks mailing list > > >> > > >>> > > [email protected] > > >> > > >>> > > http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > > >> > > >>> > > > > >> > > >>> > > Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > > >> > > >>> > > eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > > >> > > >>> > > and > > >> > > >>> > > Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >>> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > >>> > Talks mailing list > > >> > > >>> > [email protected] > > >> > > >>> > 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