David,

>From my experience, what you're describing is quite unusual - I mean changing 
>from 
close embrace to a more open embrace. Most people learn open because, 
initially, 
they feel more comfortable that way. But, gradually, they get closer until they 
dance 
close. Usually this is a natural progression. Often, I'm the first person that 
ladies 
dance with in close embrace and what I find is that, in almost every case, they 
NEVER 
want to go back to open embrace.

If the ladies you're describing have danced with you before in close embrace, I 
think 
that what might be happening is that they want to stay in close embrace, which 
is 
why they're leaning towards you - trying to make contact. In the meantime, it 
sounds 
like you're trying to keep them away from you -  in an open embrace.

David, once the lady has experienced your delicious close embrace - she never 
wants 
to give it up. As TFH is always telling us, and I agree, dance for the lady, 
not for 
yourself. Give her what SHE wants. And, after giving her close embrace, to then 
deny
it is cruel and unusual punishment :-).

Keith, HK


 On Wed Mar 12  0:16 , David Thorn  sent:

>
>I am trying to expand my dancing to include more facility with open embrace.  
>Many of the women hereabouts seem to want to lean on me; not to maintain their 
>own axis, but rather require that I do it for them.  In close embrace I have 
>no problem with a shared axis.  In open embrace I find this to be very tiring, 
>especially since I am short and many women in their heels are at least my 
>height or taller.
>


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