How is Cayenne with dealing with session and transaction issues and
lazy initialization problem?.  Thats what I seem to have the most
difficulty with.  Currently I seem to have to use lazy="false" with
all my persistant objects.  Would you say that it is easy to migrate
from hibernate to cayenne?

On 8/18/05, Eric Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can offer a few reasons why I like it better.
> 
> It's based on another excellent O/R framework (EOF, the O/R framework
> bundled with WebObjects).
> 
> I think it's easier to learn, the naming is less awkward, and the
> Cayenne mailing list is more helpful than the Hibernate forums.
> 
> Cayenne dynamically will fault relationships when needed.   When
> using Hibernate I felt like you have to think a lot more about the
> presentation of specific pages while writing low level code.  If you
> haven't pre-fetched every single thing you need to paint a page,
> Hibernate will throw attempting to traverse the object graph (because
> your Hibernate session is long closed).
> 
> I think most importantly, the Cayenne modeler is so far superior to
> Hibernate tools (middlegen, hbm2java) they just cannot be compared.
> I couldn't even quantify how much time and effort this tool has saved
> me.
> 
> Again, this is only my opinion.   But, I'm probably one of few people
> that have used both frameworks on large projects.  You mileage my vary.
> 
> Cheers,
> Eric
> 
> On Aug 17, 2005, at 5:12 PM, Konstantin Ignatyev wrote:
> 
> > Could you share what exactly makes you to consider
> > Cayene being better tnan Hibernate?
> >
> >
> > --- James Treleaven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> I also recommend that people who have not yet
> >> invested in Hibernate try
> >> Cayenne.  I actually bought 'Hibernate in Action'
> >> because I figured
> >> Hibernate *must* have had some advantage over
> >> Cayenne that I didn't know
> >> about - but after reading 'Hibernate in Action' I
> >> remain convinced that
> >> Cayenne is the superior ORM tool.
> >>
> >> James
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> > Konstantin Ignatyev
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > PS: If this is a typical day on planet earth, humans will add
> > fifteen million tons of carbon to the atmosphere, destroy 115
> > square miles of tropical rainforest, create seventy-two miles of
> > desert, eliminate between forty to one hundred species, erode
> > seventy-one million tons of topsoil, add 2,700 tons of CFCs to the
> > stratosphere, and increase their population by 263,000
> >
> > Bowers, C.A.  The Culture of Denial:  Why the Environmental
> > Movement Needs a Strategy for Reforming Universities and Public
> > Schools.  New York:  State University of New York Press, 1997: (4)
> > (5) (p.206)
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