Hear hear david, as we brits say when we hear something we profoundly approve of. Robin
2009/9/27, Robert Feivor <[email protected]>: > Glad to see the thread didn't die; let your freak flag fly I say! Now for > "super freak" that gets referenced alot w/Skaggs; surely that was a Hornsby > selection no? ;) > > On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 2:11 PM, David Long <[email protected]> wrote: > >> It troubles me to know end how squeamish and sensitive our culture can be >> in regards to discussions of these matters. The "It's all good" and "If >> you >> don't have any thing nice to say" attitudes will continue ruining >> discussion >> and argument until the end of time. By all means, put anyone you like on >> a >> stage and let them do their dance, but DONT say they have no right to be >> criticized. Mostly because we not only have a right to express these >> opinions, but to hear those of others. >> How would we, as people and musicians for that matter, ever get anywhere >> without criticism? Yes, it does sometimes come across as junkie energy >> but >> if a person has the ability to canonize that into something witty, ironic, >> or humorous (as Mike does) then it wouldn't always seem so crass and we >> may >> be able to get down to business. Our conversation and vocabularies are so >> poverty stricken that all one has in the barrel is, "That sucks, dude" >> followed by an even more pathetic rebuke and then ultimately devolving >> into >> fragile, hurt feelings of people that don't even have an arsenal of words >> or >> intellect to move discussion forward and understand the idea that a >> difference of opinion IS NOT INTENTIONALLY INSULTING. >> >> Nelson, I hope you realize what a disservice you have done to your playing >> by removing yourself from Mike's calender. We need people like you. I >> myself have been on the same receiving end of Mike's tongue several times >> but had I bailed at the first sign of thunder I dare say my life wouldn't >> be >> any different. Good luck. >> >> Onto the Scaggs point: I have never net the man, nor do I care to. His >> music never thrilled me and his manners on stage and television I find >> appalling. His comment in the Virginia newspaper a few months ago was one >> of the most galling and fatuous assumptions that I ever heard a performer >> make. He makes it clearly known that he is a man of faith and preaches at >> his shows. To me, it's obvious why he and other performers do this. If >> I, >> on stage, were to start expressing my opinions about how repulsive I think >> religion is, I would surely hear from the pulpit. I'd love to quiz Ricky >> on >> his biblical literacy some time. When we as performers start thundering >> about faith, morality, politics, or professional football we immediately >> make ourselves a hostage to criticism and rebuke. Quite honestly, if I >> ever >> met Scaggs, I may find him quite nice and personal and who knows, >> potential >> friendship. But like all my closest, dearest and most intelligent >> friends, >> we ENJOY the contrast and the clash because we are sufficiently grown up >> enough to know that we can take it and what may seem tense or awkward at >> first usually turns into something learned down the line. >> >> Criticism is necessary and should be welcome. Those who are willing to let >> it rest softly in there hearts will be a better man and those who cast it >> aside and let something trivial get in the way will stagnate, suffer, and >> find themselves in a frenzy of immobilization. >> >> Reporting live, >> Miles Long >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 10:31 AM, mistertaterbug >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> >>> I have received email from Nelson offlist and he is of the impression >>> that my post was meant to "put him in his place". If that was my >>> point, I'd say yea, be pissed off, because I have no right to tell >>> Nelson or anyone else what to listen to, play, say, blah, blah, blah. >>> Nelson cited the phrase that suggested he was "easily impressed..." >>> and referenced the sentence that encouraged him to send Skaggs a Xmas >>> card, to go sit on his doorstep. Okay. Two things about that...1) >>> Living in this town where you can't swing a dead cat without hitting >>> somebody that plays half a dozen instruments well or at the least, >>> above average, makes it really hard to be impressed by yet another >>> person that can do the same. Unfortunately, sometimes learning more >>> about something(or in the case of Jimmy Martin, Monroe, etc) runs the >>> risk of losing respect or love or interest for it. Educating oneself >>> is admirable, but it does sometimes put a dimmer light on some things, >>> or has for me. 2) I thought I made it adequately clear that I was all >>> for Nelson's appreciation for Skaggs' music. Finding something that >>> touches the soul and inspires, provides an escape from the turmoil of >>> the day is about as good as it gets. I remember what I felt like when >>> I bought Monroe's records. I used to get the dry heaves before I could >>> get the needle on the platter. The words I lent to Nelson regarding >>> getting acquainted with his heroes were words given to me. I have >>> known of at least a couple instances where artists living here have >>> sought out their heroes to the point of calling them on the phone and >>> showing up at their front door. I was told to do the same thing and >>> did. I didn't get much time to hang out with Monroe, and seriously, >>> found out there was a lot about his personality that I didn't like, >>> which was sad. It is truly best, IMO, to keep one's heroes at arm's >>> length. But the point I was trying to make was "hell, yea, go for it". >>> Is that so hard to understand? I think not. >>> >>> Now I am tired of this bit and I'm going to go cook some eggs... >>> mistertaterbug >>> >>> On Sep 27, 9:41 am, Robert Feivor <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > Wow, what a thread! :) I love this group for the honest discussion >>> > that >>> can >>> > be had. >>> > >>> > I can't and won't pretend to be able to speak to anyone's concerns but >>> only >>> > share my observations with a bit of a tangent.... >>> > >>> > Sometimes our musical stars are not quite like we imagine them to be in >>> our >>> > own head or how they present themselves to the public. I get this and >>> > accept as we are all human (even those w/a modicum of fame) >>> > >>> > On the one hand I really don't give a rip what the person is like it's >>> there >>> > music I enjoy; but this isn't always honest either b/c on some level >>> > the >>> > person behind the music does influence, no? Though there are plenty of >>> > musicians I love the music of and have never met; I do understand that >>> > sometimes they weren't always the nicest people. >>> > >>> > I remember attending one of the early Mando Symposiums and upon >>> > arriving >>> I >>> > was a complete awe struck Dawg admirer but by week's end I was leaving >>> > a >>> > total convert of Tater. Why? Dawg certainly wasn't rude or rock star >>> like >>> > but he also wasn't necessarily what I'd imagined in my head. Tater >>> "was" >>> > someone I was familiar with but left with a HUGE appreciation for b/c I >>> saw >>> > the measure of the man you could say. He was genuine and true to his >>> words >>> > and lives it. >>> > >>> > What does any of this mean; hell if I know. But Nelson, I for one >>> > appreciate MC's insights and knowledge that far exceed my own. At the >>> same >>> > time I know he's honest and sincere when he says to follow your heart. >>> By >>> > darn it if Skaggs is your guy then don't be bashful, I'm sure Tater >>> wouldn't >>> > want that. Surely your conviction can withstand some ribbin? I hope >>> so. >>> > The beauty of this list is you can fire your own rib shot back and >>> smile. >>> > >>> > Now someboyd queue up WAR's "Why Can't We Be Friends" and lets get back >>> to >>> > pickin! >>> > >>> > RF in MN >>> > >>> > On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 9:10 AM, malagrass <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > > Tater-agitator-taterbug............. >>> > >>> > > "I love you man......" >>> > >>> > > I have a few of Ricky's CD's and have enjoyed his talent through the >>> > > years but i've heard some stuff that Ricky said at Bills funeral >>> > > about >>> > > "carrying the torch" and i'm still completely turned off. But since >>> > > then I have bought his cd's and even went to see him once in Bristol. >>> > > Man his timing was waaaayyyyyy bad but thats another subject. So I >>> > > guess i'm on the fence.........as usual. >>> > >>> > > The entire political thing in BG seems like its pretty brutal but mr. >>> > > tater, keep in mind you are the man and I personally like, look up to >>> > > and try to emulate what you do. Which is more than I can say for >>> > > Ricky's style. >>> > >>> > > BigMalagrass. >>> > >>> > > On Sep 27, 2:41 am, [email protected] wrote: >>> > > > Hot damn! This is almost as good as the Jerry Springer show. (not >>> that I >>> > > ever watched) I was looking for the fat girl to take a swing at Tater >>> any >>> > > minute. I like Ricky just like I liked Jimmy Martin, but neither of >>> them >>> > > share my values so I wouldn't want to take them home, but I'll sure >>> > > as >>> hell >>> > > buy their music. >>> > >>> > > > Clyde Clevenger >>> > > > Just My Opinion, But It's Right >>> > > > Salem, Oregon >>> > > > Old Circle >>> >>> >> >> > >> > > > > -- Enviado desde mi dispositivo móvil --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Taterbugmando" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
