Erik,

Very nice posting. I also have used a capo sometimes. But usually I
can't find it.

Recently I had worked out a part (for the Motown hit "Heard it through
the Grapevine"!) in E, which used lots of open strings. It sounded
really cool. Then we got a new singer and the tune went to D! Rather
than relearn it and lost that ringing open string sound, I tuned the
whole thing down a whole step, and the mando part sounded even better!
A bit more sinister. I liked it a bunch. (this wasn't a regular mando
- it was my oldest mandonator).

Topher


On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 8:17 AM, erik berry <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I am a proud capo user. In five years of professional play I've worn
> one out, which is kinda crazy, lost three and had to begin using  a
> spare. I know all my keys and can play without one, but some songs
> call for open strings---only they're in Eb. Once in the studio after a
> take on a song in D my leadsing guitarist said, "it's too low, I'm
> capoing up. Roll tape." I had to capo up too, time is money. My final
> view on the capo is unless you only use open strings to tune--and you
> never play an open string even in the key of G or A, only then it's
> understandable to be down on them.
>
> Now addressing Adam's question about solo construction, in my
> experience I have found that each songs benefit differently from the
> mandolin taking the lead. Sometimes restating the melody is what's
> called for. Sometimes it's a spontaneous expression of the moment and
> sometimes it's another melody, different than the vocal or main line,
> but consistent. Over the years I've found that on some of our older
> songs my solos have gelled into little compositions. Taking a cue from
> that I've started sitting down and working up stuff for our newer
> songs. What I like about winging a solo is sometimes it's awesome, but
> what I don't like is that sometimes it's not awesome; sometimes it's
> bad. Having a composed solo takes some of the guesswork out. As I've
> gotten older I've lost some patience with myself when I improvise a
> bad solo. Now I sort of feel that if I'm going to step into the
> limelight, it had better be worth it.
>
> There's a David Grisman quote where he calls improvising solos "fast
> composition." Over the years I've had to be a hard taskmaster on
> myself and decided that I'm not that good at fast composition so I've
> worked on my slow composition. I think both approaches have their
> place, but I'm definitely better at one over the other.
>
> And having said that, every now and again I completely left field a
> solo that I've been playing the same for months, just to shake up
> myself and my bandmates. It's generally worth the look on their faces
> when a familiar kickoff is replaced with something else.
>
> erik
>
> PS--Having reread Adam's original post, I don't think there's too much
> difference for myself between the studio and the stage. I would like
> to share a story, though, that combines all these topics.
>
> On one of our records I really wanted to take an "autoharp" solo, but
> didn't know any players or anything so I wrote one on the mando. I
> tuned the instrument funny, I think AEAD, then capo'd it on the
> seventh fret and overdubbed the solo as the melody with as many open
> ringing strings as I could. It sounded cool and is still one of my
> favorite studio moments. However, when I came time to play live, there
> was no way I play this song and then solo with my retuned, seventh
> fret capo so I'd have to wing it. And it always was bad, especially
> compared to the studio track. Finally we rearranged the whole song so
> I'd take a solo over the verse, which enabled me to play the vocal
> melody but witha  regular tuned mandolin. Problem solved, circle
> completed.
>
> Whew, maybe I'll take a breath now.
>
>
> On Nov 17, 7:55 am, Mando Chef <[email protected]> wrote:
>> guys and gals,
>>
>> I went to a workshop on sunday and the question came up, is it ok to
>> use a capo?  I am not one to use one but the instructor said when he
>> laid the track on guitar he didn't remember he was in Bb, so he put a
>> capo on the first fret to use the mando solo he worked up in A
>> originally.  Now I have seen this guy play guitar, mandolin and banjo
>> in every key uncapoed so I know he could have done it but he had
>> worked out a solo and wanted to use it...
>>
>> How do you folks work up a solo for professional be it performance or
>> recording(is there a difference) -vs- just an off the cuff jam scene.
>>
>> I am not at the point really of knowing the difference.
>>
>> Adam
> >
>

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