I am the last one to know anything worth sharing about breaks, but am
currently in a circumstance where I am asked to improvise over what
others are playing.  When I practice at home, its first, going to the
scale, then noodling on that.  Finding things that suggest or fit with
the tune.  Also I look and mess around with the notes in the given
chords and consider rhythm, a twist maybe.  Leaving something out or
suggested seems cool.   From the noodling, ideas seem to pop out.  I
don't really ever do breaks yet but am playing with someone who plays
claw-hammer  style banjo, old time tunes, occasionally.  I try to have
more than one take of the tune.  Seems like that is what a break
is...kinda, another take on the tune, a suggestion or comment on what
is already happening, like an aside, like in Shakespeare drama.  I
like to see notation of Monroe's ideas on old time tunes as there are
clues in there about breaks..for me anyway.  The other thing I do is
find a box position on the neck, using that position to play the
chords, and see what is nearby that sounds cool with the tune.

 I think if I were going to do a break, I would use a similar
approach, get a few things I like going and then go over that till I
have two or three things pat, up my sleeve that are interesting that
can be plugged into the tune, things that become part of that tune for
me.  Since I only have a few years experience, I can't go off the
cuff, so I just agree to do this work hoping it will eventually take
me there, to spontaneous efforts of genius.  HAR  All my stuff is
fairly simple and elementary now but building in complexity.  The
Tater said once that my vocabulary was not very large.  Its true.
After a while, I gather one could create great things off the cuff,
by knowing the key, the  given chords of a tune and its basic shape
and what its about.

I love doing the improv. thing.  Seems my own notes are easier to play
than those of any others. What I can make up, seems pretty good.  Its
an interesting and creative exercise.  It would be cool to read what
the Tater and other more experienced people have to say.  Good
question.

Val, I doubt any of this is useful to you but it gave me a chance to
clarify what I am up to.
  Robin, I feel like you do, re excitement of a break, its worse for
me if they are not my ideas, I don't seem to believe in the thing
unless I created it.
Linda

On Nov 11, 12:29 am, Robin Gravina <[email protected]> wrote:
> Funny you should mention that. After realising that the excitement of
> launching into a break was making me speed up and lose timing, I spent
> yesterday working out and practicing breaks to some of our newer songs: It
> did seem to be useful to figure out something that sounds good in context
> using the various ideas that are in my head somewhere: I'm definitely not
> good enough to have those ideas in my fingers, and to be able to reproduce
> them on the cuff. Also, once you get confident about the learned break, it
> seems to be easier to improvise off of that, or at least to develop it with
> other ideas.
>
> But I speak as someone who is fumbling around with this!
>
> Also, what I realised recently is that in our group practices, we don't
> really practice solos, just play them: so we started doing each solo three
> times each time we play the song: I think it really helps to get that time
> to play something comfortably without the pressure of creating a masterpiece
> in the one moment you have available....
>
> On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Val Mindel <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Anyone have advice on working up breaks? I'm feeling lame, in a wash
> > of post-gig angst on the subject. Singing is usually what I'm hired to
> > do, and I do lots of songs in less-than-friendly string keys (flat
> > keys, F#, like that). Obviously more practice is the ticket, but I
> > don't know how to practice. Should I create a break and then memorize
> > it or hope my musical vocabulary improves to the point I can spit out
> > something coherent in the moment. Oddly enough, I can usually manage a
> > fine or at least a passable off-the-cuff break in a jam, but when the
> > crunch comes all those good ideas seem inaccessible. val
>
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