Hello Thomas,

Thursday, January 06, 2000, 6:53:21 AM, you wrote:

 
TF> OK;  I cancelled my subscribtion with Cserve about a year ago. The
TF> reason  was,  I  had a "normal" account first, which you can check
TF> with  either  the  cserve software, or by telnetting and following
TF> their  menus.  Since  I  lived  in  Thailand at that time and they
TF> offered  a  baud  rate of 2400 bps, I finally changed to POP - and
TF> couldn't telnet any more.

You  can  telnet to the POP server and send the POP commands "by hand"
;-) Like that:

USER your_name
PASS your_pass
LIST: lists the msgs
TOP N M: gets the M first line of msg N� N. (or the other way round, I
always forget)

etc, etc.

LEM>> The  only  feature  it "robbed" you was you couldn't change your
LEM>> address any more.

TF> That was one, the other one was that you couldn't do anything -
TF> anything at all except pop-check your mail - without the cserve
TF> software.

Hu?  If  you  set  up the correct log-in script in Win95/98/NT dial-up
networking,  you  can access the whole internet without the compuserve
software!  FTP,  ICQ,  Web, everything. This has been so for ages now.
(Before,  at  WinCIM's  2.0  times, that's maybe ... 5 or 7 years) you
could  access  the Internet OR access compuserve specific areas within
one  call).  You  need(ed)  the  Compuserve  software  only  to  go to
Compuserve-specific  areas.  (Less and less true now, though: They are
switching  to  a  "private  web" model, so you can use Netscape or IE,
with the correct authentification plug-in)

LEM>> Now  (since  late  June 1999), the two mailboxes have been merged, and
LEM>> you  can  access it either via the compuserve software, or via POP, as
LEM>> you wish when you wish. A by-effect, the POP mailbox is now limited to
LEM>> 250 messages :-(

TF> As they pride themselves in being more than an ISP, can you now Have a
TF> pop account *and* telnet?

You  now  have  ONE  mailbox, you can access via POP or the compuserve
software  (proprietary protocol). And, ah, yes I remember what you are
speaking  about  now. The so-named "New Mail" system vs the old system
you could access via a TEXT menu, connecting to the compuserve network
via  an  ASCII  (VT-100)  emulation  (like  a  BBS)  (or  telneting to
gateway.compuserve.com)!

Note  that  if  you  have another internet connection (you need one to
telnet,  don't  you?), you can still use the compuserve software to do
everything you wish to.

No,  you  can't  have text-based access AND the "New mail" system. The
"pure text" access seems to be, at least commercially, dropped now. It
is  still  implemented,  but beware: The sign-up program automatically
switches you to the "new mail" system now ;-)

LEM>> That's how my mailbox overflows every holiday, now <g>.

TF> With  my  ISP's  (including  this  IBM.com), they limit the server
TF> space  you can use, not the number of messages.

Compuserve  limits  both  now... Max 10MB/msg, max 30MB total, max 250
msgs.

TF> By  the  way,  can you FTP into your account and save files on the
TF> server?

?  Do  you  mean  on  your homepage? Maybe, I never tried to do my own
homepage. I can look it up if you wish.

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