Dear Carsten,
on Thursday, January 06, 2000, 20:50, you wrote:
CD>>> If you do use it, sounds to me like the routing wants to go over DUN
CD>>> first, _then_ the network.
MH>> That is quite close, I think. The question still is: why?
CD> Ahh, now that's always the deep one, ain't it!? ;]
CD>>> In that case I guess I can't help you except with the eternal
CD>>> "reinstall Windows" advice - which I try and avoid like the plague!
CD>>> ;] No, seriously though, maybe uninstalling DUN, rebooting and
CD>>> reinstalling could fix this.
MH>> I doubt that. If you read my original posting again you will see that
MH>> the DUN windows comes up only when sending mail. It does *not* come up
MH>> when retrieving mail. On top of that, it does only come up the first
MH>> time when sending after launching TB.
MH>> Thus it looks like a TB problem to me, not like a Win98 problem. If it
MH>> would be a Win98 problem, it would happen always and not only when
MH>> sending mail.
CD> Hmm... Gotta admit, this one's got me stumped. Could you maybe send me
CD> how you configured your network (all params in the TCP/IP section)
OK, here are the properties of "TCP/IP -> Intel EtherExpress(TM) PRO/10+
(PnP enabled)" - sorry for some German terms:
Tab IP-Adresse: "IP-Adresse festlegen" enabled
IP-Adresse : 192.168.1.1
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Tab WINS-Konfiguration: "WINS-Aufl�sung deaktivieren" enabled
Tab Gateway: <no entry>
DNS-Konfiguration: "DNS aktivieren" enabled
Host : PC01
Dom�ne: AirTraffic
Suchreihenfolge f�r DNS-Server: <no entry>
Suchreihenfolge f�r Dom�nensuffix: <no entry>
Remark (1): corresponding entries have been made
in the HOSTS file in the Windows
directory as well as in the NWHOST
file in the Novell client directory
Remark (2): although DNS is enabled, I'm not
using it. In TB I have entered
the IP address 192.168.1.1 for POP
and SMTP server.
Tab NetBIOS: "NetBIOS �ber TCP/IP aktivieren" enabled
Tab Erweitert: "Bindung an ATM zulassen" = Nein
"Als Standardprotokoll definieren" disabled
Remark: enabling TCP/IP as the default protocol
does not change TB's behaviour
Tab Bindungen: <no entry>
CD> and the DUN config as well (all params for everything)
Tab Allgemein: Rufnummer: 0191011
"Ortsvorwahl und W�hlparameter verwenden" disabled
Verbinden �ber: MicroLink 56k pro
Tab Servertypen: Typ des DF�-Servers: PPP: Internet, Windows NT
Server, Windows 98
Erweiterte Optionen: <all disabled>
Zul�ssige Netzwerkprotokolle: TCP/IP enabled,
all others disabled
Button TCP/IP-Einstellungen: "Vom Server zugewiesene IP-Adresse" enabled
"Vom Server zugewiesene
Namensserveradressen" enabled
"IP-Header-Komprimierung" enabled
"Standard-Gateway im Remote-Netzwerk
verwenden verwenden" enabled
(What does the latter mean BTW?)
Tab Skript: <no script>
"Terminalfenster minimiert starten" enabled
Tab Multilink: "Keine zus�tzlichen Ger�te verwenden" enabled
CD> and then get the output of the following commands (done in a DOS
CD> window):
CD> route print
Aktive Routen:
Netzwerkadresse Subnet Mask Gateway-Adresse Schnittstelle Anzahl
127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1
192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.1 1
192.168.1.1 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1
192.168.1.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.1 1
224.0.0.0 224.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.1 1
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 1
CD> netstat -a
Aktive Verbindungen
Proto Lokale Adresse Remote-Adresse Status
TCP PC01:smtp 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP PC01:pop3 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
This output is related to the local mail server that is running on my
machine, I believe. But what is interesting: the output above is the one
I get *after* I established an SMTP connection to our local mail server
at least once (and remember, the DUN windows comes up only the first
time when sending mail after launching TB). *Before* I established such
an SMTP connection the first time after launching TB, I get the
following output:
Aktive Verbindungen
Proto Lokale Adresse Remote-Adresse Status
TCP PC01:smtp 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP PC01:pop3 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP PC01:1135 pc01.airtraffic:pop3 TIME_WAIT
TCP PC01:1136 pc01.airtraffic:pop3 TIME_WAIT
TCP PC01:1137 pc01.airtraffic:pop3 TIME_WAIT
TCP PC01:1138 pc01.airtraffic:pop3 TIME_WAIT
TCP PC01:1139 pc01.airtraffic:pop3 TIME_WAIT
This irritates me. Why is the status "TIME_WAIT"? I have set up TB to
fetch mail for all 5 accounts at startup, so this looks to me as if TB
would not clear the connection with the local mail server properly. Or
might there be a problem with the mail server even?
When I now send a test message from one of the 5 accounts, the DUN
window comes up, I cancel it and the message is being sent. After that,
the output of "netstat -a" is :
Aktive Verbindungen
Proto Lokale Adresse Remote-Adresse Status
TCP PC01:smtp 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP PC01:pop3 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP PC01:1140 pc01.airtraffic:smtp TIME_WAIT
Hmm, even different to the first output above. Now I'm sending another
test message (DUN windows does not come up anymore) and get the
following output of "netstat -a":
Aktive Verbindungen
Proto Lokale Adresse Remote-Adresse Status
TCP PC01:smtp 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP PC01:pop3 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP PC01:1141 pc01.airtraffic:smtp TIME_WAIT
Hmm, again different and now I wonder how I managed to get the first
2-line output above. Damn, I'm not familiar with that stuff, maybe you
can draw the right conclusions.
CD> With that info maybe (and that's a big maybe! ;] ) I could figure out
CD> what's happening... I still kinda think it's a Win98 problem.
A big thank you for your efforts, Carsten! Hope it'll help (me). ;-)
Best regards,
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Michael Heydekamp
AIR TRAFFIC Euro Charter GmbH
eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.airtraffic.de
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