On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 16:38:05 -0500, Curtis wrote:

>OK, what you should do is go into the account properties and delete the
>templates there. From then on, any new folder that you create will have
>no templates defined.

I think a large part of my problem is the sparse and inconsistent help
(admittedly a problem with many programs). Is this another case of an
undocumented feature?

>I have a single filter for about 30 of my friends and a few others for
>others who send messages often enough to deserve a folder each. I filter
>on sender name. All work perfectly. <shrug>

Cool, I'd love to simplify my huge filter list like this. How does such
a filter look in TB?

>I don't know what your problem is. Are you familiar with the 'active'
>and 'manual only' options in the filter rule configuration dialogs? What
>settings do you use?

>From a later posting, I gather that Active means full-text match, when
I thought it meant the filter could be temporarily disabled without
deleting it by unchecking Active.

>I dislike creating filters this way because it's inefficient in terms of
>creating too many filter rules and also it disregards the importance of
>the order of the filters.

Agreed.

>down. I suspect that the filter rules for your friend may be occurring
>below the spam filter in your filter set and hence the spam filter is
>catching them first.

No, I checked for that. The spam filter was at the bottom of the list.
I think the Active setting is what was biting me.

>But if you have to drill down to do filter tweaking the purpose of the
>filter builder is defeated isn't it?

Yeah. The advantage to the builder is in the modality of the regular
filter dialog (which is part of an account's properties), preventing me
from inspecting messages to build a filter from. I think TB doesn't
have this problem.

>Threading.  The folder sorting is adjustable on a per folder basis.

Interesting.

>Using templates EXTENSIVELY. They are really POWERFUL once you can use
>them to your advantage.

I suspected this, but poor documentation limits my use as yet. I'm
thinking I'll lurk the list here to pick up the undocumented tricks
before I re-attempt using TB.

>I'm able to reformat quoted text on the fly, even ones with complex
>quote prefixes. TB! also never reflows text on sending which is very
>useful. PMMails WYSIWYG option is really shoddy compared to this. I'm
>able to adjust how I select text blocks in different ways. On the status
>bar of the editor, right click the word 'stream' and you'll be offered
>other ways of selecting text blocks. Try them. :-)

Again, didn't see how to do this, and found its absence really
frustrating. It's something that's on the RMB context menu in the Xnews
newsreader, which doubled my frustration with TB. Again, something to
remember at the next trial after lurking a bit.

>I'm able to colour code messages after selecting them or using filters

This looked interesting, but I never tried it.

>Quoted text having a different colour from unquoted text is a real
>visual enhancement that I much appreciate.

Another item from Xnews that I find lacking in PMMail.

>which I'm leaving out ... ah yes.. like cookies. Not a necessity by any

I know what a browser cookie is, but not an email cookie.

>Filtering in TB! has more to offer than PMMail. Take a good look through
>those options.

It looked promising, but I didn't see how different tabs related to
each other. PMMail uses a choice of either some simple canned
predicates presented as fields in a dialog or the ability to use a
relatively simple predicate language to create more elaborate tests.

BTW, PMMail comes with a doc giving a few tips on slick things that
aren't documented, and reading this first really leverages a first-time
user's experience during evaluation. TB really needs something like
this to sell among power users with little time to perform an extensive
eval.

Ken
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