On Wed, 09 Aug 2000 16:51:12 -0700, Kenneth Porter wrote:

KP> I think a large part of my problem is the sparse and inconsistent
KP> help (admittedly a problem with many programs). Is this another case
KP> of an undocumented feature?

TB! is features are poorly documented. This is a well established
consensus opinion among all users and Ritlabs as well. Ritlabs is small
and Russian. The size and the language barrier has been a problem. At
present their trying to find a professional writer to properly document
the features. Most of what I've learnt is from rigorous trial and error
and learning as I go along. The two more significant challenges were to
master the templates and also to understand the filtering and how to
maximize on it, (short of using Regexp's). :-)

>>I have a single filter for about 30 of my friends and a few others for
>>others who send messages often enough to deserve a folder each. I filter
>>on sender name. All work perfectly. <shrug>

KP> Cool, I'd love to simplify my huge filter list like this. How does such
KP> a filter look in TB?

For the filter rule, create your source and destination folders, insert
your first search string under the 'filter strings' dialog. For the
other strings you need to check for, go to the Alternative's tab and
using the 'Add Set' key, you may enter as many alternative filter
strings as you like.

KP> From a later posting, I gather that Active means full-text match, when
KP> I thought it meant the filter could be temporarily disabled without
KP> deleting it by unchecking Active.

What you thought *is* what it means AFAIK. 'Manual only' prevents the
filter from running automatically.

>>down. I suspect that the filter rules for your friend may be occurring
>>below the spam filter in your filter set and hence the spam filter is
>>catching them first.

KP> No, I checked for that. The spam filter was at the bottom of the list.
KP> I think the Active setting is what was biting me.

OK.

>>Threading.  The folder sorting is adjustable on a per folder basis.

KP> Interesting.

>>Using templates EXTENSIVELY. They are really POWERFUL once you can use
>>them to your advantage.

KP> I suspected this, but poor documentation limits my use as yet. I'm
KP> thinking I'll lurk the list here to pick up the undocumented tricks
KP> before I re-attempt using TB.

Template usage are the least documented and yet the most versatile. Just
a hint on their use is in the help ad well as a complete list of the
various macros and what they do.

>>I'm able to reformat quoted text on the fly, even ones with complex
>>quote prefixes. TB! also never reflows text on sending which is very
>>useful. PMMails WYSIWYG option is really shoddy compared to this. I'm
>>able to adjust how I select text blocks in different ways. On the
>>status bar of the editor, right click the word 'stream' and you'll be
>>offered other ways of selecting text blocks. Try them. :-)

KP> Again, didn't see how to do this, and found its absence really
KP> frustrating. It's something that's on the RMB context menu in the
KP> Xnews newsreader, which doubled my frustration with TB. Again,
KP> something to remember at the next trial after lurking a bit.

Again, trial and error and inspecting all menu options etc. Clicking on
all areas, right clicking etc. to see what happens.

>>I'm able to colour code messages after selecting them or using filters

KP> This looked interesting, but I never tried it.

It's nice once you have it and after a while you pretty much are
addicted.

>>which I'm leaving out ... ah yes.. like cookies. Not a necessity by any

KP> I know what a browser cookie is, but not an email cookie.

Notice how my signature has a new tagline each time. That's TB! randomly
extracting a line of text from a remote text file. You may define a
cookie macro anywhere and any number of times in the templates. My
farewells in other templates of mine are cookie based.

>>Filtering in TB! has more to offer than PMMail. Take a good look through
>>those options.

KP> It looked promising, but I didn't see how different tabs related to
KP> each other. PMMail uses a choice of either some simple canned
KP> predicates presented as fields in a dialog or the ability to use a
KP> relatively simple predicate language to create more elaborate tests.

KP> BTW, PMMail comes with a doc giving a few tips on slick things that
KP> aren't documented, and reading this first really leverages a
KP> first-time user's experience during evaluation. TB really needs
KP> something like this to sell among power users with little time to
KP> perform an extensive eval.

Can PMMail filter messages according to their age,  size and other
similar distinguishing features?

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