On Wed, 09 Aug 2000 13:36:31 -0700, Kenneth Porter wrote:
KP> That's what I ended up doing, but it's tedious to have to redo for 5
KP> accounts and 5 different templates for each. How about using empty
KP> default templates and allowing the user to drag and drop canned
KP> templates where she wants them from a library?
OK, what you should do is go into the account properties and delete the
templates there. From then on, any new folder that you create will have
no templates defined. The account templates are the default templates.
Deleting the default templates will also affect the templates of folders
also using the default templates.
KP> It mostly worked. (BTW I meant From:, not To:.) I set up a final filter
KP> that drops anything not addressed to me into a spam folder for
KP> low-priority inspection. I set up two filters for friends that drop
KP> mail with their name in the Sender field into their own folders under
KP> my Friends folder.
I have a single filter for about 30 of my friends and a few others for
others who send messages often enough to deserve a folder each. I filter
on sender name. All work perfectly. <shrug>
KP> In those two cases their "broadcast" messages kept falling through
KP> and going into my spam folder. Once there, I had to move them back
KP> to the Inbox before I could retest a filter. Never got that working.
KP> (I've since reverted to PMMail.)
I don't know what your problem is. Are you familiar with the 'active'
and 'manual only' options in the filter rule configuration dialogs? What
settings do you use?
>>That filter builder sounds like potential trouble but if it worked for
>>you fine. I'd rather create my own filters manually.
KP> Not so. Generally one sets up a filter whenever joining a new mailing
KP> list, to send those messages to their own folder for later reading,
KP> leaving the Inbox for high-priority stuff. With PMMail, the first few
KP> messages will drop into my spam folder. I create a new folder for the
KP> mailing list, select a candidate from the spam folder, and then select
KP> "Filter Builder". This brings up the filter edit dialog with the fields
KP> filled out based on guesses from the candidate message(s). (Essentially
KP> it or's the From: fields.) I just change the action to Move to the new
KP> folder. (This is one case where TB is nicer: I can create the folder as
KP> part of the filter dialog, instead of before I start this process.)
I dislike creating filters this way because it's inefficient in terms of
creating too many filter rules and also it disregards the importance of
the order of the filters. The filter rules are applied sequentially from
top to bottom in the filter rules set. Once a filter is applied to a
messages, it is not subjected to any other filters which occur further
down. I suspect that the filter rules for your friend may be occurring
below the spam filter in your filter set and hence the spam filter is
catching them first.
KP> I then tweak the filter to match what I really want in the message.
KP> (BTW, the builder was added relatively recently after lots of
KP> requests from users who didn't want to drill down the menus to the
KP> modal filter dialog with lots of cutting and pasting from messages
KP> to do this.)
But if you have to drill down to do filter tweaking the purpose of the
filter builder is defeated isn't it?
KP> Found this. Why would one select text and *not* want this to happen by
KP> default? Why the special keystroke?
Ask Steve Lamb about this. He was the main voice of reason behind your
question. :-)
KP> What kinds of things are you doing in TB that PMMail lacks?
Threading. The folder sorting is adjustable on a per folder basis.
Being able to adjust column settings in the message list on a per folder
basis.
Being able to purge and keep folder counts to a certain level and
defining this on a per folder basis. Take for example, I have a folder
in which I filter all news articles to. I have this folder set to delete
messages older than 30 days and to compress the folder on exit each
time.
Using templates EXTENSIVELY. They are really POWERFUL once you can use
them to your advantage. I'd be genuinely surprised if you really knew
how to use the template functionality behind TB! and still not use it,
ie, folder specific templates, versus address book group specific
templates, vs address book entry specific templates vs quick
templates.:-) There's no other Windows client that I know which does it
anywhere near as well as TB! does.
The editor is a big plus for me:
I'm able to reformat quoted text on the fly, even ones with complex
quote prefixes. TB! also never reflows text on sending which is very
useful. PMMails WYSIWYG option is really shoddy compared to this. I'm
able to adjust how I select text blocks in different ways. On the status
bar of the editor, right click the word 'stream' and you'll be offered
other ways of selecting text blocks. Try them. :-)
I'm able to colour code messages after selecting them or using filters
to do this. I filter TBUDL and TBBETA messages to the same folder for
reading. I differentiate them through colour coding. TBUDL messages are
maroon in colour while TBBETA messages are navy blue.
Quoted text having a different colour from unquoted text is a real
visual enhancement that I much appreciate.
There are other many little things which have become second nature to me
which I'm leaving out ... ah yes.. like cookies. Not a necessity by any
means but nice anyway.
Filtering in TB! has more to offer than PMMail. Take a good look through
those options. I'm not saying that TB! will do everything that PMMail
will do with filtering either.
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