Hello Marck! On Wednesday, May 15, 2002 at 1:24:29 AM you wrote:
> You've left out buggy, anomalous and incomplete. Marck, without wanting to start the discussion again, I have to say that your statement is plainly unfair. Yes, like all complex software there are still bugs in Opera - like we see in in TB! Yes, particularly the UI (and some other implementations) are anomalous - like TB! Yes, there are things missing (especially DOM) - like TB! misses some features other clients have. Some of these issues are concept-based - like with TB! There are always discussions going on what Opera should do and how to do it. Like with TB! I work with Opera for a much longer time then with TB! and have yet to find a real "showstopper" (except for certain bugs that were corrected in a few days - like with TB!). Actually there are only two sites I know of - and have been to a few times (meaning they are "interesting") - that I have difficulties using Opera with: TB! FAQ and another one that is built with MS Java Engine and a very stupid incorporation of JavaScript to show some pictures. I can understand your preferences to ease up the programming of the FAQ - and have never been written against it - but don't blame Opera the way you do it for being in development (DOM) or certain concept decisions. > I agree with all that you say about its speed and security, but > flexibility? No. It has an incomplete DOM implementation, no local > cookies in JavaScript and no local parameter passing with URLs. > All-in-all a non-starter for intelligent pages. Other anomalies will > also have to be ironed out before Opera can really be counted as > "mainstream", however large or enthusiastic the user base. Sorry. That sounds a lot like arguments I have seen here about TB! not being a usable e-mail client because it doesn't support certain features (GET!) OE has ... Like TB! Opera will never been mainstream as long as OE/OL comes "for free" with every PC sold at ALDI, WalMart or whatever your favourite discounter is. Actually the user-base for Opera is a bit wider than TB!'s because they use different marketing schemes including a banner-showing "free" version. TMK and E, IE is much buggier and incomplete (sorry for the bad grammar) than Opera; I've always had/have much more problems with Netscape (4.5 and above) and have yet to see a final of Mozilla, which has been reported to be very buggy and sluggish. To conclude: Nothing against your decision of using DOM, especially since you incorporated a HTML version for Opera users and a PDF for off line reading. But don't denigrate a good programme that absolutely. Remember, TB! can be assailed the same way. ;-) -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.60j on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C No one is injured save by himself. (Desiderius Erasmus) ________________________________________________________ Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ : http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
