Hi TBUDL, On Thu, 16 May 2002, at 11:28:50 [GMT +0100] you wrote: MDP> Hi Shane,
MDP> @16 May 2002, 00:37:36 -0700 (08:37 UK time) Shane R. Monroe wrote in MDP> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP> I was toying with making this reply private, but, because you have MDP> impugned me and my software publicly, I must respond publicly. MDP> <snip> MDP> While I accept what you are saying, this is completely wrong: >> ... The Bat FAQ could EASILY be done in compliance with DOM that can >> be rendered by almost all browsers, including Opera 3.x and greater. MDP> Not so. >> ... The bottom of the truth is, the product used to create it isn't >> interested in making standards compliant pages (any more than >> FrontPage or Word is); they are making IE pages. MDP> Since the product used to create it is mine and since I am MDP> *completely* intent on making it compatible with as many browsers as MDP> possible (and have put many, many man days of effort into trying to do MDP> so) I know that you should not have made the statement you made above. MDP> You couldn't have been more wrong if you tried! MDP> You were doing so well up to that point too! <g>. MDP> BrainStorm's published models use standard W3C DOM code which Opera MDP> fails to obey. AAMOF, Opera *will* render the DOM used correctly ... MDP> as long as it's receiving it from a server. Try to view the document MDP> off-line and Opera behaves differently; no cookies, no URL passed MDP> variables. With which standard is that compliant, pray tell, to behave MDP> differently on and off-line? The code *requires* global variables, MDP> which Opera won't support in an off-line document. MDP> I understand all you say about IE's "soggy logic" encouraging sloppy MDP> work and agree completely. I understand all you say about Opera's MDP> compliance in CSS and HTML and agree completely - hey, I use it MDP> myself! Sadly, the flaws and inconsistencies leave us with no choice MDP> but to turn away support for Opera. MDP> If you want to continue this conversation with me and have some MDP> constructive suggestions about how I can make my product more MDP> effective, please contact me off list. I don't want to continue this MDP> here though. Whoops what have I started !!! Thanks all for this most interesting thread. Every now and then I try Mozilla but find it too slow so I'll be sticking with Opera I just wish a few more of my favourite pages were more compliant. I still have to crank up IE sometimes. Rich -- Using The Bat! v1.60k on Windows 98 4.10 Build 2222 A -- ________________________________________________________ Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ : http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
