Hey Gerard,

My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.62h) Business' was used
to write mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 at 5:05:00 AM.

>>> Also I have seen that with a bounce you can have a 500 error
>>> (address unknown) but also 544 error, (You are black listed). Are
>>> there anymore that I could use?

JA>> That really depends... a lot of the messages you can customize.

G> That's true but these are official errors as defined in RFC's. (They
G> should be 550 and 554 :()

,----- [ From ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc2821.txt ]
| 
|       550 Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable
|          (e.g., mailbox not found, no access, or command rejected
|          for policy reasons)
|====8<---------------- snip
|       554 Transaction failed (Or, in the case of a connection-opening
|           response, "No SMTP service here")
`-----

However, I have at least one SMTP server on my PC that I can make it say
anything I want it to.... (I have not tried on the others)

G> When you bounce a msg you want it to look as good and permanent as
G> possible.

The 'bounces' that I have read that spammers pay attention to are the
ones from the SMTP session (read connecting to a SMTP server) level, so
unless you have one you can control, it doesn't help much...

G> Most spammers use software that will automaticly take you of the list
G> if they get a "correct" hard bounce.

Again, that is the opposite of what I have read about (and seen).
Spammers use temporary or even just plain fake ID's and don't worry
about all the SMTP overhead of not having a valid return address for the
SMTP servers to deliver to...

-- 
Tim Musson
Flying with The Bat! eMail v1.62 Christmas Edition
Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2)
Stare at people.  It�s cheap entertainment.


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