Hi Charles M. Gerungan
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On Sat, 3 Jul 2004, at 01:02:13 [GMT +0200] (which was 4:02 PM where I
live) you wrote:

KA>> Outlook doesn't have to. This is the job of the mail server.

> What rfc states this? It isn't. Why would a mta do that if it doesn't
> know where it's coming from?

Look, I can show you thousands of outlook incoming and outgoing mail
messages with message ID's. I'm not sure if there is an RFC for this
or not but I believe there is. Our mail server assigns a message ID to
all outgoing messages if the mail client hasn't already done so. If I
have time, I'll look up the appropriate specification.

KA>> Any legitimate mail server will automatically assign a message ID.

> I guess qmail is not a legitimate mta then :).

If that is the case, as far as we are concerned, I guess so.

KA>> Spammers, of course, like to spoof all the headers including message
KA>> ID.

> Yes, but there's always rbl which makes you devnull it before it reaches
> the queue. After that, there's SA which almost catches the rest. If
> you're still not happy, install a c/r system like tmda.

I'm perfectly happy.

> Let's move to pm before a moderator tells us to do so without putting
> MOD in the Subjec: line :).

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Best Regards,
Kevin

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