Hallo Kertesz,

On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 04:48:55 +0200GMT (8-10-2004, 4:48 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

RO>> On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 15:15:11 -0700GMT (8-10-2004, 0:15 +0200, where I
RO>> live), you wrote:
KV> I  am  not  a moderator, but if Kevin has violated some rule, you too.
KV> Why is it important to mention your local time over and over again?

It's nice that you say that, but I'd like you to point to the
following facts:
1) I wasn't moderating Kevin, but Jack
2) Kevin who wasn't breaking rules, uses something like my own header
   line to tell you his local time too. ;-)
3) That line is in my AB template for this list, I'm not going to
   change templates just because I have to moderate somebody
4) Since this is an international list, that line has some use. It
   shows to both authors in a thread the time difference between the
   respective time zones, so it gives an idea when you could expect an
   answer or why you didn't get it any sooner.

KV> We  have  a  term  for this case: "He's talking about water but drinks
KV> wine..."

My country was a bit more biblical oriented and we say: He sses the
splinter in the eye of his neighbour but not the balk in his own eye.

KV> No  offense,  really, but you jump on every small error...

Actually, I don't. Follow this thread back and you'll see that Jack's
previous message has the same failing as the one I moderated, but that
one got no reaction from any moderator. When you check his messages
before this thread (including his replies), you'll see that those
didn't break the list rules. Apparently he made he conscious adaption
and now he's made conscious of the error in his way. (for this list)

KV> A moderator should work in the background, not in the spotlight, I
KV> think.

With such an opinion, you should start a discussion  off list.
Besides you could have read my message completely, because that says:

RO>> To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of
RO>> private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you
RO>> subscribed.

So you could have read the welcome message , so that we wouldn't have
this part of the discussion. But in short:
When we moderate off list, nobody sees it, so nobody is remembered to
the fact that it's against the rules, that's likely to cause more
offenses than less. Thus causing unhappiness to those who prefer the
rules etc.

When you've lost your welcoming message and like to receive a copy,
I'll be more than happy to send it.

-- 
Groetjes, Roelof

(A)bort (R)etry (I)nfluence with a large hammer

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