Hi

On Friday 9 January 2009 at 10:45:44 AM, in
<mid:[email protected]>, MAU wrote:


> I have never seen such a behaviour.

Well it has always been the behaviour I have experienced in TB! until
very recently.

> The default behaviour, which has always (or AFAIR) been like that,
> is that an 'unread' (not marked as 'read') message shows the Unread
> Flag and the text for whatever columns are displayed in the message
> list is bolded.

That is my experience too, although I have added colour groups to make
it leap out at me without having to concentrate on looking at the
flags.

It also allows me to distinguish between a message I have never read
and one I have marked as unread because I need to attend to it some
other time non-urgently, for example. (see also description below)

> Now, about threads. A collapsed thread (or thread
> branch) containing 'Unread' (not marked as 'read')
> messages is shown bolded but with no Unread Flag.

I experience the bold text here, too. I cannot comment on the flags as
I didn't get on with them as a visual aid, so I use colour groups. The
read message at the top of the collapsed thread is white, as per my
"messages I have read" colour group but is bold.

> When a bolded thread or thread branch is expanded, only 'unread'
> (not marked as 'read') messages will be bolded and will show the
> Unread Flag.

That differs from the behaviour I have always had until recently.
Here, all the way from the top of the thread has been shown bold until
recently. But only the new messages are in my "unread" colour group
and therefore red. These red ones are still bold but the old messages
no longer turn bold in this situation.

> I think you are complicating things here with colour
> groups.

Each to their own. I find it enhances my user experience of TB!,
unfortunately this recent change detracts from that user experience.

> How do you assign them? With filters? Manually?

The colour scheme for my "<generic group>" is the same as my "unread
messages" colour group, so all messages automatically look that way to
begin with. (Before anybody asks, the only real use for my colour
group called "unread messages" is that on the odd occasion when I want
to manually re-assign a message to that colour scheme I cannot usually
remember that I need to choose "<generic group>")

Once I read a message (display it for a few seconds) a "Read messages"
filter sets the colour group to "messages I have read". If I didn't
want that, I manually change the colour group back.

>> If not read but just marked as read they are red not
>> bold.

> This is a key issue I think. Why and how do you 'mark
> as read' a message that you have NOT read?

If I have no current interest in a discussion, I may select the whole
(or part of the) thread andchoose "mark as read" from the context
menu. This dismisses the bold text but does not change the colour
group, so I know instantly when looking at the message list that I did
not actually read those messages and may wish to another time.

My colour scheme has been:-

   1. White, not bold = has been read, nothing new below

   2. White and bold = has been read, new message in thread

   3. Red, not bold = not read, not interested at moment, nothing new
   below

   4. Red and Bold = new message (or was a 3. and now has a new
   message in thread, which may cause me to re-evaluate my interest)


This recent change has wrecked 2. and the bracketed part of 4.


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