FWIW, payment for overlength is not unusual, and has never been the 
metric for whether a journal is "free".

"Free" means (variously):
        - access to the material is open and without payment by
        the general public

        - publication of material is open and without payment by
        authors or their representatives (employers, etc.)

Overlength, color page, and other 'extended services' fees were a 
typical artifact of paper publication; they make less sense if a venue 
is exclusively on-line, but their presence does not mean a venue is "for 
fee".

Joe (TCCC Chair)

On 12/2/2011 9:46 PM, Emmanuel Lochin wrote:
> Hi Adam, obviously my university paid and not me. But this is not a free
> journal as you have to pay the extra pages to be published. Other journal
> do not ask you to pay anything.
>
> Emmanuel
>
> Le 2 déc. 2011 23:37, "Prof. Adam Wolisz"<[email protected]>  a écrit :
>
>
>    Dear All,
>    I have NEVER been requested MANDATORY payment - so I have
>    consulted the published information for the authors - see below.
>    (link and excerpt from this link!)
>    The clear statement is:
>    Payment is not obligatory nor is it a prerequisite
>    for publication.
>    (as long as you do not use excess pages!!)
>    Best
>    adam
>    [1]http://www.ieee.org/portal/cms_docs_iportals/iportals/publications/
>    authors/transjnl/auinfo07.pdf
>    A. Page Charges
>    IEEE Policy 6.9 permits some types of periodicals to levy
>    Page Charges. If your publication is one of these, it is your
>    company or institution, not you, which is being asked for
>    support. Payment is not obligatory nor is it a prerequisite
>    for publication. Such support is based on the philosophy
>    that the usual research or development project is complete
>    only when results have been disseminated to the engineering
>    and scientific community and that it is thus proper that the
>    financing of the project include funds to support, in part, the
>    cost of publication. Page charges are widely used throughout
>    the scientific publishing community and are widely accepted.
>    For example, most U.S. Government agencies recognize the
>    payment of page charges as a legitimate part of the cost of
>    performing research and development work under Government
>    contracts.
>    Page charges are levied for each printed page. Payment
>    entitles the author to 100 reprints (covers are not included).
>    Self-covers and additional reprints may be ordered at the prices
>    noted on the IEEE Page Charge and Reprint Order Form.
>    B. Mandatory and Overlength Page Charges
>    IEEE Policy 6.10 permits some types of periodicals to
>    levy mandatory charges for each page in excess of a page
>    limit set by that publication. The charge itself is adjusted
>    each year to reflect costs. The purpose of this mandatory
>    charge is to encourage adherence to the publication's budget
>    and to provide funding for excess pages if an author has not
>    been able to meet the stated length requirement. The same
>    publication may be permitted to request Page Charges as
>    well. Please check the wording of your IEEE Page Charges
>    and Reprint Order Form carefully.
>
> References
>
>    1.
> http://www.ieee.org/portal/cms_docs_iportals/iportals/publications/authors/transjnl/auinfo07.pdf
>
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