Hi -

Does anyone in this group write service manuals?

The company I work for sells automated pharmacy dispensing devices.  My
group is charged with the documentation, including service manuals. We
are currently discussing the pros and cons of including theories of
operation in the service manuals, and I am eager to hear your opinion.

Thanks for your help!
Joyce
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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Run-in heads in Frame (Peter Gold)
   2. Best software for a training manual? (Tim Mantyla)
   3. Re: Best software for a training manual? (Tom Johnson)
   4. Re: Best software for a training manual? (Dori Green)
   5. Re: Best software for a training manual? (Sue Heim)
   6. Re: Best software for a training manual? (Tim Mantyla)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 11:12:17 -0500
From: "Peter Gold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [TCP] Run-in heads in Frame
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Hi, Lisa:

Search Google for: reficons cudspan

Reficons is one way to do it, and it's free.

There are also other free helpful FrameMaker tools at this great site.

HTH
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Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices



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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:19:21 -0400
From: Tim Mantyla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [TCP] Best software for a training manual?
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Hi all,

My mission: create a user-friendly sales training manual.

I am wondering if anyone can offer some tips, or point me toward someone

who can advise me on what software might be appropriate for this
venture. 
We are thinking about a mostly online, easily revisable and hyperlinked 
format. 

I'm a writer familiar w/ MS Word, unfamiliar with much other software. 
Word has problems displaying images, as I'm sure you're aware. (A huge 
memory upgrade seems to have solved this problem, at least for now.)
Might 
we consider RoboHelp as an authoring tool, or put it on an intranet
within 
the company? Other options? MS Publisher seems too limited.

Going to trial demo ExtremeEase, Madcap Flare, on the list to test
Madcap 
Blaze, maybe test others I find.

I'd appreciate your "hip-pocket" reviews of software you use.

My goals for the manual include:
?    As user-friendly, easy to read & understand as possible
Visual when possible
Encourage hands-on learning
Describe hands-on procedures when helpful
Easy to revise - on the network
Usable as a training manual and a reference
Keep or link updated procedures thru a central source

I'd appreciate your "hip-pocket" reviews of software you use.

Thanks for any help you can offer!

Best wishes for healthy living,

Tim Mantyla
Account Representative
NuStep, Inc.  -  www.nustep.com
5111 Venture Drive, Suite 1
Ann Arbor,  MI  48108
Ph:        800-322-2209, Ext. 173
Fax:      734-769-8180
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Transforming Lives"


?Wellness is more than programs and services designed to enhance an 
individual's emotional, intellectual, physical, social, spiritual and 
vocational dimensions. In the future, effective whole-person wellness 
programs will promote optimism, self-efficacy, fun and strategies for 
changing health behaviors.? 

--Jan Montague, Whole-Person Wellness Observations for 2001: The Journey

Continues? at http://www.janmontague.com/articles/alsuccess101.html
Find more insight at http://www.nustep.com/active/index.html


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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:56:24 -0400
From: "Tom Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [TCP] Best software for a training manual?
To: "'Tim Mantyla'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,        <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Hi Tim,

You'll get a bunch of opinions here. First, you should decide if you're
goal
is print or online. If you favor one or the other, that might influence
your
decision. If it doesn't matter, then you might choose from a few of the
products that do both fairly well.

Some would argue FrameMaker is among the best for printed manuals. It
also
does well as the basis for PDF. It is also capable of creating online,
hyperlinked manuals, but it takes some forethought and work.

Flare seems to be gaining ground with the online help crowd, but I think
it
falls short for print. That's where Madcap hopes to break in with Blaze.
I
really would recommend against trying to use a beta product (Blaze) for
a
high-profile project. That is, unless you have unlimited time and
patience
and are willing to beat your head on the desk while you deal with the
inevitable bugs.

You're right, Publisher is not up to the task.

AuthorIT is a possibility. I don't know enough about the other online
help
packages to offer much advice. To me, those seem like they do a good job
of
presenting topic by topic information, but they lack something when it
comes
to organizing a linear document like a sales training manual. How will
the
reader know when he or she has finished reading? Other than that, I
recommend you visit Char James-Tanny's HAT Matrix to get a good overview
of
different Help Authoring Tools. http://helpstuff.com/hats.html


Tom Johnson

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On
Behalf Of Tim Mantyla
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 1:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [TCP] Best software for a training manual?

Hi all,

My mission: create a user-friendly sales training manual.

I am wondering if anyone can offer some tips, or point me toward someone

who can advise me on what software might be appropriate for this
venture. 
We are thinking about a mostly online, easily revisable and hyperlinked 
format. 

I'm a writer familiar w/ MS Word, unfamiliar with much other software. 
Word has problems displaying images, as I'm sure you're aware. (A huge 
memory upgrade seems to have solved this problem, at least for now.)
Might 
we consider RoboHelp as an authoring tool, or put it on an intranet
within 
the company? Other options? MS Publisher seems too limited.

Going to trial demo ExtremeEase, Madcap Flare, on the list to test
Madcap 
Blaze, maybe test others I find.

I'd appreciate your "hip-pocket" reviews of software you use.

My goals for the manual include:
.    As user-friendly, easy to read & understand as possible
Visual when possible
Encourage hands-on learning
Describe hands-on procedures when helpful
Easy to revise - on the network
Usable as a training manual and a reference
Keep or link updated procedures thru a central source

I'd appreciate your "hip-pocket" reviews of software you use.

Thanks for any help you can offer!

Best wishes for healthy living,

Tim Mantyla
Account Representative
NuStep, Inc.  -  www.nustep.com
5111 Venture Drive, Suite 1
Ann Arbor,  MI  48108
Ph:        800-322-2209, Ext. 173
Fax:      734-769-8180
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Transforming Lives"




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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:26:59 -0400
From: "Dori Green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [TCP] Best software for a training manual?
To: <[email protected]>
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Tim Mantyla wrote:

My mission: create a user-friendly sales training manual.

****************

Audience = sales associates?  How technology-savvy are they?

Purpose = give them the info needed to present the product effectively?
        (the sizzle that goes with the steak)?

Output format?  PDF or HTML?  Interactive via links for diving in to
more detail about a feature?

Should pretty much be a piece of cake.  I'd set it up as a Wiki, myself,
with the caveat not to abuse this audience by having them replace your
testing crew.  I would make it accessible only to limited subscribers,
not open to everybody on the Internet.  Support the Wiki with expert
responses to their questions and other precious feedback in a timely
fashion that proves Management's understanding of the value of this
feedback.

This "manual" can become an incredible tool for team building and
engagement of the sales force -- and the customers!  What fun you are
going to have!

Dori Green



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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:26:15 -0700
From: "Sue Heim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [TCP] Best software for a training manual?
To: "Tom Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Tim Mantyla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected]
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I've stayed out of this till now but...

Tom, the requirements you listed are really not requirements for what a
tool
can do. They are requirements for how you will write your docs. And
unless
I'm mistaken, so far, there isn't any tool out there that will actually
write the content for you.

So better questions that you should be asking and getting answered are:

1. Do you have existing content? Can the tool import that content?
2. Are you going to provide multiple output formats? If so, what type?
PDF?
HTML Help? HTML pages (web site or help?).
3. Is this the only document you'll produce? If not, will you use the
tool
to create user docs?
4. How many people will be working on this project?
5. Is this project a one-off or must it be maintainable? What about
expansion?

There's more, but you get the idea, yes?

If you are thinking of an online format (such as help or Web), pretty
much
any help authoring tool will do what you want. If you also want to
provide
PDFs, then your choices narrow somewhat. Framemake with an ADDITIONAL
tool
allows for print and online. RoboHelp does online well and print less
easily. Ditto with Flare. AuthorIT does both well and allows for easier
reuse of content.

So my advice would be to narrow down the requirements of what you want
the
TOOL to do, and then go and download evals of the top 3 or 5 tools.
Check
out www.hat-matrix.com for a help authoring tool comparison. And then
come
back and ask more specific info or tips/tricks for the tool you've
selected.

(BTW, MadCap Flare is not necessarily "gaining" as much momentum as they
would have you think. They gained a lot of users off the bat because of
the
RH-like interface and the special offers when it was that that RH was in
the
stages of becoming a sunset app. Now that Adobe is actively developing
RoboHelp, some who may have been on the fence are going back to a known
tool. I know the guys at MadCap and they are great folks, but they are
not
the market leader no matter how much they may think they are. And yes, I
own
AuthorIT, RoboHelp, and MadCap Flare!! <grin>)

...sue





On 9/25/07, Tom Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> You'll get a bunch of opinions here. First, you should decide if
you're
> goal
> is print or online. If you favor one or the other, that might
influence
> your
> decision. If it doesn't matter, then you might choose from a few of
the
> products that do both fairly well.
>
> Some would argue FrameMaker is among the best for printed manuals. It
also
> does well as the basis for PDF. It is also capable of creating online,
> hyperlinked manuals, but it takes some forethought and work.
>
> Flare seems to be gaining ground with the online help crowd, but I
think
> it
> falls short for print. That's where Madcap hopes to break in with
Blaze. I
> really would recommend against trying to use a beta product (Blaze)
for a
> high-profile project. That is, unless you have unlimited time and
patience
> and are willing to beat your head on the desk while you deal with the
> inevitable bugs.
>
> You're right, Publisher is not up to the task.
>
> AuthorIT is a possibility. I don't know enough about the other online
help
> packages to offer much advice. To me, those seem like they do a good
job
> of
> presenting topic by topic information, but they lack something when it
> comes
> to organizing a linear document like a sales training manual. How will
the
> reader know when he or she has finished reading? Other than that, I
> recommend you visit Char James-Tanny's HAT Matrix to get a good
overview
> of
> different Help Authoring Tools. http://helpstuff.com/hats.html
>
>
> Tom Johnson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On
> Behalf Of Tim Mantyla
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 1:19 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [TCP] Best software for a training manual?
>
> Hi all,
>
> My mission: create a user-friendly sales training manual.
>
> I am wondering if anyone can offer some tips, or point me toward
someone
> who can advise me on what software might be appropriate for this
venture.
> We are thinking about a mostly online, easily revisable and
hyperlinked
> format.
>
> I'm a writer familiar w/ MS Word, unfamiliar with much other software.
> Word has problems displaying images, as I'm sure you're aware. (A huge
> memory upgrade seems to have solved this problem, at least for now.)
Might
> we consider RoboHelp as an authoring tool, or put it on an intranet
within
> the company? Other options? MS Publisher seems too limited.
>
> Going to trial demo ExtremeEase, Madcap Flare, on the list to test
Madcap
> Blaze, maybe test others I find.
>
> I'd appreciate your "hip-pocket" reviews of software you use.
>
> My goals for the manual include:
> .    As user-friendly, easy to read & understand as possible
> Visual when possible
> Encourage hands-on learning
> Describe hands-on procedures when helpful
> Easy to revise - on the network
> Usable as a training manual and a reference
> Keep or link updated procedures thru a central source
>
> I'd appreciate your "hip-pocket" reviews of software you use.
>
> Thanks for any help you can offer!
>
> Best wishes for healthy living,
>
> Tim Mantyla
> Account Representative
> NuStep, Inc.  -  www.nustep.com
> 5111 Venture Drive, Suite 1
> Ann Arbor,  MI  48108
> Ph:        800-322-2209, Ext. 173
> Fax:      734-769-8180
> Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "Transforming Lives"
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:46:29 -0400
From: Tim Mantyla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [TCP] Best software for a training manual?
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Sue Heim

> Tom, the requirements you listed are really not requirements for what
a
> tool
> can do....

> So better questions that you should be asking and getting answered
are:

> ...sue

Thanks for the replies--great points and questions! Keep them 
coming...trying to get some answers from my organization...on what you 
listed and a few more...

It's something of a "cart before the horse" project. There are no
training 
modules designed or written out, so I'm essentially creating a rough
draft 
at this point of not only the manual, but the training. I went through 
sales training of sorts--more like "random episodic learning"--so this 
project motivates me to save others from that plight!

The hard part is organizing it all. The fun part is helping determine 
training needs and goals and best practices in a small and dynamic, 
growing and successful company. As Simon Bar Sinister from UnderDog
says, 
"I'll rule the [training] world!"


> On 9/25/07, Tom Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Tim,
> >
> > You'll get a bunch of opinions here. First, you should decide if
> you're
> > goal
> > is print or online. If you favor one or the other, that might....

> > reader know when he or she has finished reading? Other than that, I
> > recommend you visit Char James-Tanny's HAT Matrix to get a good
> overview


Went there, good site!...now my problem is learning the language. It's 
mostly "Geek" to me...

> > of > > different Help Authoring Tools.
http://helpstuff.com/hats.html
> >
> > Tom Johnson


Tim Mantyla 

PS: Tom also replied above, but I'm Tim.


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