I agree with others who have commented on this thread that it's
important to explain to the student that, in higher ed and in the
business world, this type of grammar would be viewed negatively.  That
then gives the student an idea of the skills and language he or she
would need in order to be successful in the "game."

However, I would also take this opportunity to address with the student
the power dynamics of the situation - how powerful gatekeepers (such as
educators) use language as a means to ridicule or demean others and/or
prevent the access of individuals and groups into powerful social
institutions based on their perceived lack of intellect.  This issue is
essentially about power and privilege, and it connects to race, class,
and gender.  This is a very important component of this "teaching
moment" that needs to be addressed, in my opinion.  In short, I would
critically analyze the gatekeeping with the student.

Denise

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Sociology
Bellevue Community College
3000 Landerholm Circle SE, A251
Bellevue, WA 98007-6484
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And how did they get out of grammar school and middle school? But what
an opportunity for a sociological discussion of this phenomenon rather
than looking to blame the institutions. 



>>> GIMENEZ MARTHA E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 05/19/06 1:29 PM >>>

I think there are two issues here:

1.  How to deal with student who write in such appalling fashion - you
were kinder than I would have been :)

2.  Why do we find this kind of student in our classes?  What was the
admissions office doing?  What were our colleagues doing?  What were
such students doing in high school? And why did high schools let them
graduate?

Sigh.....

Martha

Martha E. Gimenez
Department of Sociology
Campus Box 327
University of Colorado at Boulder
Boulder, Colorado 80309
Voice:  303-492-7080
Fax:  303-492-8878
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On Fri, 19 May 2006, Michael Klausner wrote:

> I received this e-mail from a student who was in my class last term. I
> replied that the horrendous punctuation, grammar, spelling was not
> appropriate when communicating with anyone except friends, perhaps.
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> Even then, it would not be appropriate. Should I have been "harder",
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> Comments welcome
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> you were right when u said u wanted to see me again ahaha.. i was
> wonderign when ur classes were for fall semester so i can see if i can
> retake ur class.. get back to me when you can
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>                                          sincerly,
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