LOL exactly! I had coworkers at my last employer that knew they needed to do a 1,3,5,3,2,1 in the menu system on the mainframe to do something. If we had changed the menu options they would have no clue because they didn't know what they were really doing. I was always tempted to change the menu options to something like:
1. Are 2. You 3. Really 4. Reading 5. This? On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:54 AM, JimHays <hay...@sages.us> wrote: > Ben > > You are preaching to the choir here. > <rant> > I was talking about this at Tech Feast in one of my sessions the other day. > We need to teach skills and teach students how to use those skills to solve > problems instead of teaching them keystrokes and menu items. After all, we > are called "TEACHERS" and not "TRAINERS". Industry has TRAINERS to train > their employees to perform the repetitive tasks that are required by > corporate mandates. Schools have TEACHERS to teach students haw to think > and solve problems for themselves. > Why, in the technology classroom, do we continue to TRAIN students for jobs > that may or may not exist when they are ready for them instead of TEACH them > how to think technologically so that they can adjust to the ever-changing > technological world in which we live? > </rant> > > OK. I feel better now........... > > > > > Ben Story wrote: >> >> As someone that was taught WordPerfect and has successfully survived >> the business world of Office I will say that it's better to teach the >> skills and the skills to adapt to change than to teach software. When >> I was in college I was upset that they weren't teaching the buzzword >> languages like Java and C++ (late 90s). Now I look back and realize >> that instead we were learning to program and I have been able to pick >> up multiple languages over the years because of it. The biggest part >> of the above is to teach the students to be flexible and how to adapt >> to change. Who knows, in 2 years Windows 8 might move the start >> button to the top right of the screen! >> >> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:34 AM, McKay, Curtis <cmc...@bths201.org> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> This unfortunately has turned into something similar to, do we teacher >>> word >>> processing or Microsoft Word? There’s a lot of keboards and special >>> commands taught in our CAD class specific to AUTOCad. I’m not saying >>> whether I agree with that or not, but something to keep in mind when >>> talking >>> about switching this kind of software. >>> >>> >>> >>> Curtis McKay >>> >>> Network Administrator >>> >>> Belleville Township High School District 201 >>> >>> cmc...@bths201.org >>> >>> >>> >>> From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org >>> [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of Scott Siri >>> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:27 AM >>> To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List >>> Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] CAD software >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.cadstd.com/samples/index.html >>> >>> maybe it is better than I thought. >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Scott Siri <ss...@mendotahs.org> wrote: >>> >>> oh yeah...there is a free one called CADSTD lite, but again I know little >>> about CAD and expect that this has far too few features, but perhaps it >>> would be appropriate for what the kids really need or use. >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Scott Siri <ss...@mendotahs.org> wrote: >>> >>> I downloaded a free version of Alibre which is a mechanical design and >>> CAD >>> program. I don't know much about this stuff, but it was all several >>> years >>> ago when I had time to play with stuff like that. >>> >>> I just called them about educational pricing. $150 per seat for their >>> professional version. You would want to check up on whether it really >>> did >>> the same thing as CAD. >>> >>> The contact number the sales guy gave me was 214-389-9056. >>> >>> He did confirm that the new stuff runs on windows 7! >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Mike Oliveri >>> <mike.oliv...@student.rb60.com> wrote: >>> >>> Our vocational center recommended Pro/ENGINEER instead. It's much more >>> reasonably priced at $200ish a seat if I recall correctly. Never did find >>> a >>> good open alternative for our teacher. He looked at SketchUp, but it >>> doesn't >>> have all the measurements and such of CAD. >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> On Jul 22, 2010, at 4:50 AM, Steele, Thomas C wrote: >>> >>> >>>> >>>> For those that offer drafting or CAD classes, what software are you >>>> using? >>>> >>>> We have been using AutoCAD LT but our version doesn't work with Win7 >>>> and the software is quite expensive considering the number of students >>>> that use it. I would be very interested in an open source solution. >>>> I have found several free or open source options but not being very >>>> well versed in CAD I would like some first hand feedback. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> -ts >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPod >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Tech-geeks mailing list >>>> Tech-geeks@tech-geeks.org >>>> http://lists.illinicloud.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tech-geeks >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tech-geeks mailing list >>> Tech-geeks@tech-geeks.org >>> http://lists.illinicloud.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tech-geeks >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *** This Email was sent by an educator at Mendota IL. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tech-geeks mailing list >>> Tech-geeks@tech-geeks.org >>> http://lists.illinicloud.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tech-geeks >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Tech-geeks mailing list > Tech-geeks@tech-geeks.org > http://lists.illinicloud.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tech-geeks > -- -- Ben Story CCSP, CCNA, CCNA Wireless, CCDA ben.st...@gmail.com "You cannot escape the responsibility of tomorrow by evading it today. -- Abraham Lincoln _______________________________________________ Tech-geeks mailing list Tech-geeks@tech-geeks.org http://lists.illinicloud.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tech-geeks
