In our area, we have to dial 1-xxx-xxx-xxxx for every call, even local.  When 
that started, our accidental 911 calls went through the roof.  Our problem was 
a bit simpler.  People got in to the habit of dialing 91 because they had to 
for every call.  So they would pick up the phone, dial 91, then look at the 
phone number they were going to call and dial the 1 again.  I made the change 
to dial 8 instead of 9, but I was "told" to change it back.
 
So to get around the problem, I changed the dialplan to insert the 1-630 in to 
a dialed number if it was only 7 digits to allow the staff to go back to the 
way it used to be and our 911 calls have dropped off.  Here, after 3 or 4 false 
calls in a month, they charge us $50.
 
If you do switch from 9 to another number, be sure you don't mess up 911.  I 
can't tell you how many districts I have been to where every phone had a 
sticker on it that said "For emergency, dial 8911" or something like that.

>>> "Steele, Thomas C" <[email protected]> 8/13/2010 7:24 AM >>>
At the advice of our area emergency services board, we changed to dial out code 
from the industry standard "9" to "8" because according to them that caused a 
lot of accidental 911 calls.  For the 10+ years we had the old phone system we 
had - maybe - 2 or 3 accidental 911 calls total.  Right after changing we had 
close to a dozen and still get about a half dozen a year.  We finally figured 
out the cause...  People woul start dialing "9" since that is typical for an 
outside line, then dial "1" to start the public number dialing sequence ( ie 
1-800-xxx-xxxx) but realize they made a mistake so hang up and immediately pick 
up the receiver again which appeared as a single pulse - the equivalant of 
dialing a "1" from a rotary phone - thus completing the 911 dialing sequence.  
To make matters worse there is always about a 5 second delay before the 
dispatch center phone starts ringing so people would hang up right away because 
they didn't hear a dialtone thus resulting in a hangup si

tuation and no clue that a 911 call was made.  In the mean time our area has 
the policy that every 911 hang up has to be investigated so the police show up. 
Sometimes you get exactly the opposite of what you are going for!

On another note, I would have serious concerns about the setup guy that stayed 
DID numbers rarely match up to extensions.  In a small system using POTS lines 
that may be the case but in a larger system using PRIs and a pool of contiguous 
DID numbers that is a bit more unusual.  You can usually request a block that 
corresponds with available ext ranges in your system.  Most systems I have seen 
like that are desinged to allow for a logical mapping of at least three of the 
digits.

-ts

Sent from my iPod

On Aug 12, 2010, at 6:45 PM, "Dan Ragen" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Last August set up an Avaya 500 system for the whole District 123 extension and 
DID for each extension. The DID's and the extension do not match (not a big 
deal).
We also set up an internal emergency number within the district that rings all 
admin, me the maintenance Super  (He is an EMT).  This will get people on the 
move rather than call
Fire guys or Cops, etc.  The one thing we had trouble with was calling out.  
Within 2 weeks a few of out brighter teacher had called 911 by mistake.  We set 
up 9 to start an out side call.
So when they hit 9 then 1 for a long distance call they some time did  911.  We 
change to outside line to a 7.

The only hassle is when we have some classroom changes and the janitors want to 
move the phone.  Had to break them of that.  Using static IP's the phones also.

Each extension is 4 digits and the extension matches the room number, for 
example extension 2141 in my number in the HS where my office and server room 
is located.
JH is 4### and elementary school is 3###.

It took two days of planning an one day to set the whole thing up and working.  
The smoothing things out took about a month but it has worked very well since 
the middle of September 09.




On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Michael Bendorf 
<<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
 wrote:
NBX


I currently have three buildings: District Office, Jr./Sr. High and Elem
Each building has a different initial digit of the internal extensions:
1xxx == District office
2xxx == Jr./Sr. High
3xxx == Elem

I like the idea of matching DID's and Internals, but hadn't though about that 
when setting up things on the analogue POTS lines.

The guy that set up the system says that usually the DIDs and Ext.s don't match 
at all and people just deal with it. I have a block of contiguous DIDs that 
would allow me to have them match, but I don't yet appreciate the effort it 
would take to reassign internal ext.s


--Michael T. Bendorf--
Technology Administrator
A-C Central C.U.S.D. #262
217.476.3312 ext. 2019
Cellular: 217.306.6824

"I'm trying to teach myself to ask the same questions that you do during your 
lectures so that I do not need you any more."

A good teacher is like a candle - it consumes itself to light the way for 
others.

"The computer revolution hasn't started yet. Don't be misled by the enormous 
flow of money into bad defacto standards for unsophisticated buyers using poor 
adaptations of incomplete ideas."

- Alan Kay


On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Ben Story 
<<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
wrote:
Can you match up the last three digits?  So 2019 gets 476-6019


On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Bob Schmidt 
<<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
is the 3com an NBX or VCX?

I installed NBX systems for 5 years and still use one at one of my districts.

________________________________
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[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
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 On Behalf Of Michael Bendorf
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 11:08 AM
To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List
Subject: [tech-geeks] internal extensions and DID #s

I am close to finishing a PRI/DID install.
We have had a 3Com VoIP system for a few months working with analogue lines. I 
am getting this moved over to a PRI very soon.

I am worrying about my users getting confused by having different internal 
extensions from their DID #s.
That is, my internal extension is x2019. Lets say I then assign the DID # 
476-6023 to my phone. People have to remember that my internal extension is 
completely different from my outside DID #.

How have other organizations handled this?


--Michael T. Bendorf--
Technology Administrator
A-C Central C.U.S.D. #262
217.476.3312 ext. 2019
Cellular: 217.306.6824

"I'm trying to teach myself to ask the same questions that you do during your 
lectures so that I do not need you any more."

A good teacher is like a candle - it consumes itself to light the way for 
others.

"The computer revolution hasn't started yet. Don't be misled by the enormous 
flow of money into bad defacto standards for unsophisticated buyers using poor 
adaptations of incomplete ideas."

- Alan Kay

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