I know that we have not tied any classroom phones to a specific DID unless we 
thought it was needed.  We have the main buildings and any number we had before 
the PRI move ported over, but left the fax, fire and one emergency line in each 
building.  That way if 911 was dialed it would go out on the land line and 
didn't have to setup e911.  Each building when we dial 911 has the correct 
address from caller ID.  
 
Dan
 
Daniel Zobel
Director of Technology
Heyworth CUSD#4
309-473-2250 - Direct #
309-473-2822 - Grade School

>>> "Brandon J. Harbison" <[email protected]> 8/12/2010 1:34 PM >>>
Hope this helps,

I have only had experience with Cisco's Call Manager(concepts are all the 
same), but, when we've done setups like this, we normally recommend changing 
the dial plan inside to match the DID's you're going to get on your PRI.  This 
does make your dial plans a lot easier to deal with and trouble shoot.  You 
could build some translation patterns that match the old extensions, that way 
folks inside the district could still dial the old extensions, they would just 
ring to the new 'DID' extensions, of course, if I'm reading this correctly, 
you've only had it for a few weeks, if that's the case, I would match the DIDs 
and the internal extensions either exactly the same, or extremely close, now 
would be the time to do it.

Sincerely,



Brandon Harbison
Solutions Architect

Genesis Adaptive, INC.
Main Line (309) 807-4909
Toll Free 866-829-8228
Direct Line (309) 807-5808
Fax 888-477-7374

Support Options:
Support Line 888-392-4427
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bob Schmidt
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 1:22 PM
To: 'Tech-Geeks Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] internal extensions and DID #s

Is it a single NBX system, or multiple boxes tied together with Virtual Tie
Lines/H323 Connections?  How many extensions/DIDs are we talking about between 
the buildings?

The way I look at it is if you change everyone's internal extension to match 
their DID, there will be confusion at the beginning and a bunch of extra work, 
but in the end it will all be easy and simple.  By having a different extension 
and DID, it will always be confusing, and a lot more dialplan editing when you 
do your moves, adds, and changes. 

When you have the DIDs match or closely match the extension (ext1023 =
did6023) you have only a few lines of dialplan code to handle all of the DID 
translations and when you provision a new phone, you don't ever have to edit 
the dialplan.  You just plug it in, edit the user info/extension and the DID 
just works immediately.  The way I imagine it now, you have a separate 
PreTranslatorOperation for every DID extension for inbound and outbound calls 
(e911?).  That kind of takes away the purpose of having a simple VoIP system if 
the moves, adds, and changes are time consuming.

Of course this is much easier when the PRI is installed with the phone system.

My entire DID range is handled by the following two lines.
PreTranslatorEntry Create          2     1 49

PreTranslatorOperation Create          1     1      1 stripLead  3

________________________________

From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Bendorf
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:41 PM
To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] internal extensions and DID #s


The three buildings are all linked and four-digit dialing works between them 
all. 
I might be making a bigger deal then necessary, but I get to train the teachers 
about the phine system in eight days and I still do not have this worked out 
yet.

--Michael T. Bendorf--
Technology Administrator
A-C Central C.U.S.D. #262
217.476.3312 ext. 2019
Cellular: 217.306.6824

"I'm trying to teach myself to ask the same questions that you do during your 
lectures so that I do not need you any more."

A good teacher is like a candle - it consumes itself to light the way for 
others.

"The computer revolution hasn't started yet. Don't be misled by the enormous 
flow of money into bad defacto standards for unsophisticated buyers using poor 
adaptations of incomplete ideas."

- Alan Kay



On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Daniel Zobel <[email protected]>
wrote:


Are all three buildings linked so internal numbers all work?  I set my did 
number but only tell outside people that number.  We have a 3 com NBC system 
with a pri line.  None of our numbers matched what we have internally.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 12, 2010, at 12:27 PM, Michael Bendorf <[email protected]> wrote:



NBX


I currently have three buildings: District Office, Jr./Sr.
High and Elem
Each building has a different initial digit of the internal
extensions:
1xxx == District office
2xxx == Jr./Sr. High
3xxx == Elem

I like the idea of matching DID's and Internals, but hadn't though about that 
when setting up things on the analogue POTS lines.

The guy that set up the system says that usually the DIDs and Ext.s don't match 
at all and people just deal with it. I have a block of contiguous DIDs that 
would allow me to have them match, but I don't yet appreciate the effort it 
would take to reassign internal ext.s 


--Michael T. Bendorf--
Technology Administrator
A-C Central C.U.S.D. #262
217.476.3312 ext. 2019
Cellular: 217.306.6824

"I'm trying to teach myself to ask the same questions that you do during your 
lectures so that I do not need you any more."

A good teacher is like a candle - it consumes itself to light the way for 
others.

"The computer revolution hasn't started yet. Don't be misled by the enormous 
flow of money into bad defacto standards for unsophisticated buyers using poor 
adaptations of incomplete ideas."

- Alan Kay



On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Ben Story < <mailto:[email protected]> 
[email protected]> wrote:


Can you match up the last three digits?  So 2019 gets 476-6019



On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Bob Schmidt < <mailto:[email protected]> 
[email protected]> wrote:


is the 3com an NBX or VCX?

I installed NBX systems for 5 years and still use one at one of my districts. 

________________________________

From:
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[mailto: <mailto:[email protected]>
[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Bendorf
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 11:08 AM
To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List
Subject: [tech-geeks] internal extensions and DID #s


I am close to finishing a PRI/DID install.
We have had a 3Com VoIP system for a few months working with analogue lines. I 
am getting this moved over to a PRI very soon.

I am worrying about my users getting confused by having different internal 
extensions from their DID #s.
That is, my internal extension is x2019.
Lets say I then assign the DID # 476-6023 to my phone. People have to remember 
that my internal extension is completely different from my outside DID #.

How have other organizations handled this?


--Michael T. Bendorf--
Technology Administrator
A-C Central C.U.S.D. #262
217.476.3312 ext. 2019
Cellular: 217.306.6824

"I'm trying to teach myself to ask the same questions that you do during your 
lectures so that I do not need you any more."

A good teacher is like a candle - it consumes itself to light the way for 
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"The computer revolution hasn't started yet.
Don't be misled by the enormous flow of money into bad defacto standards for 
unsophisticated buyers using poor adaptations of incomplete ideas."

- Alan Kay


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