<OT> <rant> Jim touches the "third rail" of tech-geekdom, bad Jim.
</rant> </OT> ________________________________________ From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org [tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of JimHays [hay...@sages.us] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 9:21 AM To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List Subject: [tech-geeks] OT - was - SIS FTE Question Disclaimer - this is a political rant of someone who leans a little left of center. Continue reading at your own peril. <soapbox> Let's all understand why we have SIS in the first place. It can all be traced back to NCLB and a group of people whose main purpose in life is to discredit public education so we can shift public dollars to private schools. This is mostly an issue for large cities and does not have a direct affect on most on this list but it sure as heck has caused a lot of extra work for us. Just another of a long list of things that can be classified as "good politics" but "bad public policy". Oh how I yearn for the day when someone can come to power in our county who will place "good public policy" ahead of "good politics". But, alas, if that person would run for office with the current state of affairs of the two political parties he would have absolutely no chance of winning. The Republican and Democratic Parties in our country act more like street gangs than they do political parties - especially in Illinois. With the "you got one of ours so we must get one of yours" mentality, it reminds of the stories of the 30's in Chicago. If you are a member of one of those parties - and I am a member of neither and I refuse to vote in primaries because I will not declare in public which ballot I want - then you MUST HATE ALL MEMBERS OF THE OTHER PARTY. At least that is what we are told if we listen to Lush Bimbo or Keith Omygod. Unfortunately with the EIB Network, MSNBC, and the like - yes, both ends of the spectrum can scream and yell, the "center" has no voice. In order to be heard in our country you either have to threaten to build a mosque near ground zero or burn Korans in a public place. But the person who believes that a mosque near ground zero is a bad idea and that burning Korans is an awful idea has no voice in our society. Bottom line is this. Both "sides" suck. Oh yea, so does SIS. </soapbox> Daniel Zobel wrote: > This is what we were told to do with Skyward so that these students > would show up properly with the coding structure. We actually created > a second Out of District Entity which they were enrolled in as part > time. In the regular school their FTE was .5 and the Out of School, > which listed the school/tech center, but still showed we were the > serving school for the other .5. So all in all they were 1.0 FTE for > out school district, but we could show the documentation that the > students were somewhere else for have the day. > > Took me a bit to understand it, but it makes sense to me now. The > other school/tech center is like an extension of your school, another > department off campus, if you think of it that way. > > Where as Alt. Ed is where they are being served for everything and > they are listed as 1.0 FTE. > > Dan > > Daniel Zobel > Director of Technology > Heyworth CUSD#4 > 309-473-2250 - Direct # > 309-473-2822 - Grade School > > >>> JimHays <hay...@sages.us> 9/10/2010 8:27 AM >>> > There are two different reasons to report this information to the > state. One is for attendance and one is for testing. As far as I know, > SIS is for testing. > > So, if the student is tested at your school and your school is the home > school, the student's FTE should be 1.0 and your are the home school and > the testing school. > > If the student is tested (and served) elsewhere but you are the home > school, the FTE is 1.0 and set the home and testing schools accordingly. > > For attendance, if your receive the state aid for the student and then > pay tuition for the student to be served elsewhere, this is YOUR student > and you report the attendance to the state (and then get the state aid.) > > But if you call and ask you may get different answers depending on who > you talk to. That is the major issue. > > All you can do is to follow your principals direction. He is the one > who is paid to know these things, not the tech coordinator. > > > > Steele, Thomas C wrote: > > To my knowledge we have always considered career center students as > our full-time student and listed the career center courses in our > catalog as your new principal has said. I can't say with 100% > certainty that is correct, but it has worked for us. This whole thing > is a confusing mess - with career centers, alternative education > centers, out-placed services, etc. - hard to tell what to put when! > > > > -TS > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org > [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of Charlie Niehaus > > Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 8:07 AM > > To: tech-geeks@tech-geeks.org > > Subject: [tech-geeks] SIS FTE Question > > > > Geeks, > > > > We have some students that spend half of their day at an area > vocational > > center taking classes there. The classes are taught by vocational > teachers > > at their building at another site and our students are bussed to > that site, > > they attend classes 1/2 a day and then bussed back and they attend > classes > > here the other 1/2 of the day. These classes do show up on our course > > catalog, but it is a generic listing (vocational technology) and not > as the > > specific course they are taking like Auto Body Repair or Nursing. > In the > > past I would mark these kids as FTE .5 for our school under serving > school > > and the vocational center as .5 FTE for serving. I have a new > principal > > that is telling me that they should be 1.0 serving here since it is > "our > > class" that is being taught at their building?? I was pretty sure > he was > > wrong, but when I go back and look at a few students that I knew were > > vocational last year I only find a .5 FTE listing for our school and > nothing > > for the vocational school in their records - making it look like the > kid was > > 1/2 time here only. > > > > Anyone know the correct way to code these kids? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Charlie Niehaus > > Altamont Unit #10 Community Unit Schools > > 7 S. Ewing Street > > Altamont, IL 62411 > > Voice: 618-483-6193 ext. 238 > > Fax: 618-483-5399 > > Web: www.altamont.k12.il.us > > > > | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | > > | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | > > > > | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org |
