How are people creating their images for Win7 - using the Windows Deployment Toolkit? There seems to be no exact carry-over from sysprep. Thanks Dylan Dylan Haines Systems Technical Support Manager
HB Studios Multimedia Ltd. Box 725, The Hive 37 Hall Street Lunenburg, NS B0J 2C0 Tel: (902)634-8316 ext. 237 Cell: (902)553-0706 Fax: (902)634-3647 <blocked::blocked::http://www.hb-studios.com/> www.hb-studios.com _____ From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of Dylan Haines Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 1:02 PM To: 'Tech-Geeks Mailing List' Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Windows 7 licensing I was reading up on KMS today, it looked to me as there is a limit count of available licenses on the server side. Dylan Haines Systems Technical Support Manager HB Studios Multimedia Ltd. Box 725, The Hive 37 Hall Street Lunenburg, NS B0J 2C0 Tel: (902)634-8316 ext. 237 Cell: (902)553-0706 Fax: (902)634-3647 <blocked::blocked::http://www.hb-studios.com/> www.hb-studios.com _____ From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Zobel Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 12:51 PM To: 'Tech-Geeks Mailing List' Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Windows 7 licensing Once you hit 25 machines then KMS works. KMS is like DHCP, is auto done. MAK is registered with Microsoft and you are given a certain amount of license to use, you can request more. If you image machine often you will hit that number quickly, which is why you would use KMS, which is done locally and doesn't have a license limit. Dan Daniel Zobel Director of Technology Heyworth CUSD#4 309-473-2250 - Direct # 309-473-2822 - Grade School >>> "Dylan Haines" <dyl...@hb-studios.com> 9/30/2010 10:46 AM >>> Thats perfect - thanks! Why would anyone want to mess with KMS then. Dylan Dylan Haines Systems Technical Support Manager HB Studios Multimedia Ltd. Box 725, The Hive 37 Hall Street Lunenburg, NS B0J 2C0 Tel: (902)634-8316 ext. 237 Cell: (902)553-0706 Fax: (902)634-3647 <blocked::blocked::http://www.hb-studios.com/> www.hb-studios.com _____ From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of McKay, Curtis Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 12:35 PM To: 'Tech-Geeks Mailing List' Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Windows 7 licensing Windows 7 has 2 types of volume licensing: KMS and MAK MAK is fairly similar to VLK with XP EXCEPT that with MAK you still have to activiate (but that can be automated in a script at the end of the imaging). With VLK for XP, there was no activation. As far as number of machines, if you buy 1000 OEM Win7 Pro desktops, you can buy 1 VL of Win7 Pro and use the MAK key you received from buying that 1 license to reimage all 1000 OEM licensed desktops. This is how we've done all our licensing. We have over 200 vista machines licensed this way and around 100 Win7 machines done this way. We've always just bought OEM licenses and then 1 VL for ease of reimaging. Curtis McKay Network Administrator Belleville Township High School District 201 cmc...@bths201.org From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of Dylan Haines Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 10:25 AM To: 'Tech-Geeks Mailing List' Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Windows 7 licensing Thats what we were doing for XP. For Windows 7, is this a MAK you are reffering to, or is there a separate VLK for Windows 7? Between Adobe, Autodesk and MS my head hurts. :-( No limits on how many PCs can be imaged with the same license under VLK for Win7, even if they are all initially OEM? Thanks Dylan Dylan Haines Systems Technical Support Manager HB Studios Multimedia Ltd. Box 725, The Hive 37 Hall Street Lunenburg, NS B0J 2C0 Tel: (902)634-8316 ext. 237 Cell: (902)553-0706 Fax: (902)634-3647 <blocked::blocked::http://www.hb-studios.com/> www.hb-studios.com _____ From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of McKay, Curtis Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 12:16 PM To: 'Tech-Geeks Mailing List' Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Windows 7 licensing Media has to match the license type, that is the kicker. BUT, here's what we have done: We bought Vista Business and Windows 7 Professional Desktop PC(s) with OEM licenses and then bought 1 volume license (per OS) which gave us the product key and rights to download the volume license media. Since the OEM license was for Win7Pro and the VL Media/license was for Win7Pro you have the right to use the VL media/license to reimage all OEM licensed PC(s). So, we only double bought 1 license, but now I can use that 1 key on all the machines. Your rights to do this are clearly stated in the word doc at this link: http://download.microsoft.com/download/3/D/4/3D42BDC2-6725-4B29-B75A-A5B0417 9958B/Reimaging.docx Curtis McKay Network Administrator Belleville Township High School District 201 cmc...@bths201.org From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of Dylan Haines Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 10:06 AM To: 'Tech-Geeks Mailing List' Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Windows 7 licensing We can deal with entering the keys as we're not often doing more than a handful at a time. Trick seems to be finding the right installer that will accept OEM, MAP, or Vista->7 upgrade keys. Hoping to avoid keeping three different images just for licensing reasons. Thanks Dylan Dylan Haines Systems Technical Support Manager HB Studios Multimedia Ltd. Box 725, The Hive 37 Hall Street Lunenburg, NS B0J 2C0 Tel: (902)634-8316 ext. 237 Cell: (902)553-0706 Fax: (902)634-3647 <blocked::blocked::http://www.hb-studios.com/> www.hb-studios.com _____ From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of McKay, Curtis Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 11:56 AM To: 'Tech-Geeks Mailing List' Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Windows 7 licensing You can own as many OEMS in your organization as you want, but when you image you'll have to type in each individual key for the machines. We use KMS here, but if you don't like KMS, there's MAK as well which is very similar to how XP volume licensing worked. Curtis McKay Network Administrator Belleville Township High School District 201 cmc...@bths201.org From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of Dylan Haines Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 9:51 AM To: 'Tech-Geeks Mailing List' Subject: [tech-geeks] Windows 7 licensing Hi all - trying to sort through the morass of options for Windows 7. Just looked at KMS and decided I don't like it at all. Is there a limit to how many OEM Win7 Pro licenses you can have in an organization before you are forced to use Volume licensing? It seems to me VLK was a lot easier to manage under XP. How do you go about imaging if using only OEMs? Thanks for any tips. Dylan Dylan Haines Systems Technical Support Manager HB Studios Multimedia Ltd. Box 725, The Hive 37 Hall Street Lunenburg, NS B0J 2C0 Tel: (902)634-8316 ext. 237 Cell: (902)553-0706 Fax: (902)634-3647 <blocked::blocked::http://www.hb-studios.com/> www.hb-studios.com
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