KMS is actually not that bad once you get it setup initially, you do need the 25 machines though. MAK is a pain as it counts every time you activate something and I am not sure if it ever goes away (so if you do 3 installs I think it counts 3 times even on the same machine). After awhile that will become a problem of course. I am not even sure KMS is keeping track of how many machines you have as it keeps a history of the last 50 or something like that. The only issue is activating it as it can only be activated 6 times or so before it stops taking activation as a KMS server.
Once it is setup Windows Vista/7 will literally pull it down and activate with no information (don't even need to put in a key, it pulls the information from DNS). --Josh On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Pam <techge...@gmail.com> wrote: > I started using FOG this summer. I really like it so far. > pam > > On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Dylan Haines <dyl...@hb-studios.com> > wrote: > > How are people creating their images for Win7 - using the Windows > Deployment > > Toolkit? There seems to be no exact carry-over from sysprep. > > > > Thanks > > > > Dylan > > > > Dylan Haines > > Systems Technical Support Manager > > > > HB Studios Multimedia Ltd. > > Box 725, The Hive > > 37 Hall Street > > Lunenburg, NS B0J 2C0 > > > > Tel: (902)634-8316 ext. 237 > > Cell: (902)553-0706 > > Fax: (902)634-3647 > > > > www.hb-studios.com > > > > ________________________________ > > From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org > > [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of Dylan Haines > > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 1:02 PM > > To: 'Tech-Geeks Mailing List' > > Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Windows 7 licensing > > > > I was reading up on KMS today, it looked to me as there is a limit count > of > > available licenses on the server side. > > > > Dylan Haines > > Systems Technical Support Manager > > > > HB Studios Multimedia Ltd. > > Box 725, The Hive > > 37 Hall Street > > Lunenburg, NS B0J 2C0 > > > > Tel: (902)634-8316 ext. 237 > > Cell: (902)553-0706 > > Fax: (902)634-3647 > > > > www.hb-studios.com > > > > ________________________________ > > From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org > > [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Zobel > > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 12:51 PM > > To: 'Tech-Geeks Mailing List' > > Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Windows 7 licensing > > > > Once you hit 25 machines then KMS works. KMS is like DHCP, is auto done. > > MAK is registered with Microsoft and you are given a certain amount of > > license to use, you can request more. If you image machine often you > will > > hit that number quickly, which is why you would use KMS, which is done > > locally and doesn't have a license limit. > > > > Dan > > > > Daniel Zobel > > Director of Technology > > Heyworth CUSD#4 > > 309-473-2250 - Direct # > > 309-473-2822 - Grade School > > > >>>> "Dylan Haines" <dyl...@hb-studios.com> 9/30/2010 10:46 AM >>> > > Thats perfect - thanks! > > > > Why would anyone want to mess with KMS then. > > > > Dylan > > > > Dylan Haines > > Systems Technical Support Manager > > > > HB Studios Multimedia Ltd. > > Box 725, The Hive > > 37 Hall Street > > Lunenburg, NS B0J 2C0 > > > > Tel: (902)634-8316 ext. 237 > > Cell: (902)553-0706 > > Fax: (902)634-3647 > > > > www.hb-studios.com > > > > ________________________________ > > From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org > > [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of McKay, Curtis > > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 12:35 PM > > To: 'Tech-Geeks Mailing List' > > Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Windows 7 licensing > > > > Windows 7 has 2 types of volume licensing: KMS and MAK > > > > MAK is fairly similar to VLK with XP EXCEPT that with MAK you still have > to > > activiate (but that can be automated in a script at the end of the > > imaging). With VLK for XP, there was no activation. > > > > > > > > As far as number of machines, if you buy 1000 OEM Win7 Pro desktops, you > can > > buy 1 VL of Win7 Pro and use the MAK key you received from buying that 1 > > license to reimage all 1000 OEM licensed desktops. > > > > > > > > This is how we’ve done all our licensing. We have over 200 vista > machines > > licensed this way and around 100 Win7 machines done this way. We’ve > always > > just bought OEM licenses and then 1 VL for ease of reimaging. > > > > > > > > Curtis McKay > > > > Network Administrator > > > > Belleville Township High School District 201 > > > > cmc...@bths201.org > > > > > > > > From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org > > [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of Dylan Haines > > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 10:25 AM > > To: 'Tech-Geeks Mailing List' > > Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Windows 7 licensing > > > > > > > > Thats what we were doing for XP. For Windows 7, is this a MAK you are > > reffering to, or is there a separate VLK for Windows 7? Between Adobe, > > Autodesk and MS my head hurts. :-( > > > > > > > > No limits on how many PCs can be imaged with the same license under VLK > for > > Win7, even if they are all initially OEM? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Dylan > > > > > > > > Dylan Haines > > Systems Technical Support Manager > > > > HB Studios Multimedia Ltd. > > Box 725, The Hive > > 37 Hall Street > > Lunenburg, NS B0J 2C0 > > > > Tel: (902)634-8316 ext. 237 > > Cell: (902)553-0706 > > Fax: (902)634-3647 > > > > www.hb-studios.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org > > [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of McKay, Curtis > > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 12:16 PM > > To: 'Tech-Geeks Mailing List' > > Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Windows 7 licensing > > > > Media has to match the license type, that is the kicker. BUT, here’s > what > > we have done: > > > > We bought Vista Business and Windows 7 Professional Desktop PC(s) with > OEM > > licenses and then bought 1 volume license (per OS) which gave us the > product > > key and rights to download the volume license media. Since the OEM > license > > was for Win7Pro and the VL Media/license was for Win7Pro you have the > right > > to use the VL media/license to reimage all OEM licensed PC(s). So, we > only > > double bought 1 license, but now I can use that 1 key on all the > machines. > > Your rights to do this are clearly stated in the word doc at this link: > > > > > > > > > http://download.microsoft.com/download/3/D/4/3D42BDC2-6725-4B29-B75A-A5B04179958B/Reimaging.docx > > > > > > > > > > > > Curtis McKay > > > > Network Administrator > > > > Belleville Township High School District 201 > > > > cmc...@bths201.org > > > > > > > > From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org > > [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of Dylan Haines > > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 10:06 AM > > To: 'Tech-Geeks Mailing List' > > Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Windows 7 licensing > > > > > > > > We can deal with entering the keys as we're not often doing more than a > > handful at a time. Trick seems to be finding the right installer that > will > > accept OEM, MAP, or Vista->7 upgrade keys. Hoping to avoid keeping three > > different images just for licensing reasons. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Dylan > > > > > > > > > > > > Dylan Haines > > Systems Technical Support Manager > > > > HB Studios Multimedia Ltd. > > Box 725, The Hive > > 37 Hall Street > > Lunenburg, NS B0J 2C0 > > > > Tel: (902)634-8316 ext. 237 > > Cell: (902)553-0706 > > Fax: (902)634-3647 > > > > www.hb-studios.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org > > [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of McKay, Curtis > > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 11:56 AM > > To: 'Tech-Geeks Mailing List' > > Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Windows 7 licensing > > > > You can own as many OEMS in your organization as you want, but when you > > image you’ll have to type in each individual key for the machines. > > > > > > > > We use KMS here, but if you don’t like KMS, there’s MAK as well which is > > very similar to how XP volume licensing worked. > > > > > > > > Curtis McKay > > > > Network Administrator > > > > Belleville Township High School District 201 > > > > cmc...@bths201.org > > > > > > > > From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org > > [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of Dylan Haines > > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 9:51 AM > > To: 'Tech-Geeks Mailing List' > > Subject: [tech-geeks] Windows 7 licensing > > > > > > > > Hi all - trying to sort through the morass of options for Windows 7. Just > > looked at KMS and decided I don't like it at all. > > > > > > > > Is there a limit to how many OEM Win7 Pro licenses you can have in an > > organization before you are forced to use Volume licensing? It seems to > me > > VLK was a lot easier to manage under XP. > > > > > > > > How do you go about imaging if using only OEMs? > > > > > > > > Thanks for any tips. > > > > > > > > Dylan > > > > > > > > Dylan Haines > > Systems Technical Support Manager > > > > HB Studios Multimedia Ltd. > > Box 725, The Hive > > 37 Hall Street > > Lunenburg, NS B0J 2C0 > > > > Tel: (902)634-8316 ext. 237 > > Cell: (902)553-0706 > > Fax: (902)634-3647 > > > > www.hb-studios.com > > > > > > > > | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | > > > > > > -- > "We are a product of the choices we make, not the circumstances that > we face." ~ Roger Crawford > "The price of greatness is responsibility." ~ Sir. 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