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On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Dylan Haines <dyl...@hb-studios.com> wrote:
> How are people creating their images for Win7 - using the Windows Deployment
> Toolkit? There seems to be no exact carry-over from sysprep.
>
> Thanks
>
> Dylan
>
> Dylan Haines
> Systems Technical Support Manager
>
> HB Studios Multimedia Ltd.
> Box 725, The Hive
> 37 Hall Street
> Lunenburg, NS  B0J 2C0
>
> Tel:  (902)634-8316 ext. 237
> Cell: (902)553-0706
> Fax: (902)634-3647
>
> www.hb-studios.com
>
> ________________________________
> From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org
> [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of Dylan Haines
> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 1:02 PM
> To: 'Tech-Geeks Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Windows 7 licensing
>
> I was reading up on KMS today, it looked to me as there is a limit count of
> available licenses on the server side.
>
> Dylan Haines
> Systems Technical Support Manager
>
> HB Studios Multimedia Ltd.
> Box 725, The Hive
> 37 Hall Street
> Lunenburg, NS  B0J 2C0
>
> Tel:  (902)634-8316 ext. 237
> Cell: (902)553-0706
> Fax: (902)634-3647
>
> www.hb-studios.com
>
> ________________________________
> From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org
> [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Zobel
> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 12:51 PM
> To: 'Tech-Geeks Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Windows 7 licensing
>
> Once you hit 25 machines then KMS works.  KMS is like DHCP, is auto done.
> MAK is registered with Microsoft and you are given a certain amount of
> license to use, you can request more.  If you image machine often you will
> hit that number quickly, which is why you would use KMS, which is done
> locally and doesn't have a license limit.
>
> Dan
>
> Daniel Zobel
> Director of Technology
> Heyworth CUSD#4
> 309-473-2250 - Direct #
> 309-473-2822 - Grade School
>
>>>> "Dylan Haines" <dyl...@hb-studios.com> 9/30/2010 10:46 AM >>>
> Thats perfect - thanks!
>
> Why would anyone want to mess with KMS then.
>
> Dylan
>
> Dylan Haines
> Systems Technical Support Manager
>
> HB Studios Multimedia Ltd.
> Box 725, The Hive
> 37 Hall Street
> Lunenburg, NS  B0J 2C0
>
> Tel:  (902)634-8316 ext. 237
> Cell: (902)553-0706
> Fax: (902)634-3647
>
> www.hb-studios.com
>
> ________________________________
> From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org
> [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of McKay, Curtis
> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 12:35 PM
> To: 'Tech-Geeks Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Windows 7 licensing
>
> Windows 7 has 2 types of volume licensing: KMS and MAK
>
> MAK is fairly similar to VLK with XP EXCEPT that with MAK you still have to
> activiate (but that can be automated in a script at the end of the
> imaging).  With VLK for XP, there was no activation.
>
>
>
> As far as number of machines, if you buy 1000 OEM Win7 Pro desktops, you can
> buy 1 VL of Win7 Pro and use the MAK key you received from buying that 1
> license to reimage all 1000 OEM licensed desktops.
>
>
>
> This is how we’ve done all our licensing.  We have over 200 vista machines
> licensed this way and around 100 Win7 machines done this way.  We’ve always
> just bought OEM licenses and then 1 VL for ease of reimaging.
>
>
>
> Curtis McKay
>
> Network Administrator
>
> Belleville Township High School District 201
>
> cmc...@bths201.org
>
>
>
> From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org
> [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of Dylan Haines
> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 10:25 AM
> To: 'Tech-Geeks Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Windows 7 licensing
>
>
>
> Thats what we were doing for XP. For Windows 7, is this a MAK you are
> reffering to, or is there a separate VLK for Windows 7? Between Adobe,
> Autodesk and MS my head hurts. :-(
>
>
>
> No limits on how many PCs can be imaged with the same license under VLK for
> Win7, even if they are all initially OEM?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Dylan
>
>
>
> Dylan Haines
> Systems Technical Support Manager
>
> HB Studios Multimedia Ltd.
> Box 725, The Hive
> 37 Hall Street
> Lunenburg, NS  B0J 2C0
>
> Tel:  (902)634-8316 ext. 237
> Cell: (902)553-0706
> Fax: (902)634-3647
>
> www.hb-studios.com
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org
> [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of McKay, Curtis
> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 12:16 PM
> To: 'Tech-Geeks Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Windows 7 licensing
>
> Media has to match the license type, that is the kicker.  BUT, here’s what
> we have done:
>
> We bought Vista Business and Windows 7 Professional Desktop PC(s) with OEM
> licenses and then bought 1 volume license (per OS) which gave us the product
> key and rights to download the volume license media.  Since the OEM license
> was for Win7Pro and the VL Media/license was for Win7Pro you have the right
> to use the VL media/license to reimage all OEM licensed PC(s).  So, we only
> double bought 1 license, but now I can use that 1 key on all the machines.
> Your rights to do this are clearly stated in the word doc at this link:
>
>
>
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/3/D/4/3D42BDC2-6725-4B29-B75A-A5B04179958B/Reimaging.docx
>
>
>
>
>
> Curtis McKay
>
> Network Administrator
>
> Belleville Township High School District 201
>
> cmc...@bths201.org
>
>
>
> From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org
> [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of Dylan Haines
> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 10:06 AM
> To: 'Tech-Geeks Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Windows 7 licensing
>
>
>
> We can deal with entering the keys as we're not often doing more than a
> handful at a time. Trick seems to be finding the right installer that will
> accept OEM, MAP, or Vista->7 upgrade keys. Hoping to avoid keeping three
> different images just for licensing reasons.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Dylan
>
>
>
>
>
> Dylan Haines
> Systems Technical Support Manager
>
> HB Studios Multimedia Ltd.
> Box 725, The Hive
> 37 Hall Street
> Lunenburg, NS  B0J 2C0
>
> Tel:  (902)634-8316 ext. 237
> Cell: (902)553-0706
> Fax: (902)634-3647
>
> www.hb-studios.com
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org
> [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of McKay, Curtis
> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 11:56 AM
> To: 'Tech-Geeks Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Windows 7 licensing
>
> You can own as many OEMS in your organization as you want, but when you
> image you’ll have to type in each individual key for the machines.
>
>
>
> We use KMS here, but if you don’t like KMS, there’s MAK as well which is
> very similar to how XP volume licensing worked.
>
>
>
> Curtis McKay
>
> Network Administrator
>
> Belleville Township High School District 201
>
> cmc...@bths201.org
>
>
>
> From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org
> [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of Dylan Haines
> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 9:51 AM
> To: 'Tech-Geeks Mailing List'
> Subject: [tech-geeks] Windows 7 licensing
>
>
>
> Hi all - trying to sort through the morass of options for Windows 7. Just
> looked at KMS and decided I don't like it at all.
>
>
>
> Is there a limit to how many OEM Win7 Pro licenses you can have in an
> organization before you are forced to use Volume licensing? It seems to me
> VLK was a lot easier to manage under XP.
>
>
>
> How do you go about imaging if using only OEMs?
>
>
>
> Thanks for any tips.
>
>
>
> Dylan
>
>
>
> Dylan Haines
> Systems Technical Support Manager
>
> HB Studios Multimedia Ltd.
> Box 725, The Hive
> 37 Hall Street
> Lunenburg, NS  B0J 2C0
>
> Tel:  (902)634-8316 ext. 237
> Cell: (902)553-0706
> Fax: (902)634-3647
>
> www.hb-studios.com
>
>
>
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