That poses the question...are the switches union?  

Chris Janssen
JH/HS Principal/Technology Coordinator
Spoon River Valley Schools
London Mills, IL 61544
cjans...@spoon-river.k12.il.us
Phone: (309) 778-2201
Fax: (309) 778-2655
>>> etpinge.l...@gmail.com 10/21/10 11:26 AM >>>
might be a union deal that login times are 30-40 minutes

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Eric Pingel
Network Manager
Lake Bluff School District 65
epin...@lb65.org

On Oct 21, 2010, at 11:16 AM, Jim Flanagan wrote:

> don't forget, get the login tim down to 5 min. and you are a hero ;-)
>
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Brian Tobin  
> <brian.to...@dist428.org> wrote:
> So it basically sounds like 80-90K a year to do nothing.  Ha!
> It would be interesting to see what kind of skill set the techs  
> have, and how bad the network config is.
>
> Brian Tobin
> DeKalb Community Unit School District 428
> 901 s 4th st
> DeKalb, IL 60115
> brian.to...@dist428.org
> ilfastpi...@gmail.com
> W815.754.2284
> M302.468.6246
> ________________________________________
> From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org [tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org 
> ] On Behalf Of Chris Franzen [chrisfran...@nokomis.k12.il.us]
> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:03 AM
> To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Job Opening - Dir of Tech
>
> Yeah that would be my problem as well.  I would be hands on and  
> upset the union.  good luck to anyone who wishes to truck down this  
> path.
> Chris Franzen
> Technology Coordinator
> Nokomis School District
> 511 Oberle St.
> Nokomis, IL  62075
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:47 AM, T Suter 
> <suterscomput...@gmail.com<mailto:suterscomput...@gmail.com 
> >> wrote:
> I should clarify......I wasn't mad because I HAD to do the work.  It  
> was because I had several grievances filed against me because I  
> WANTED to do the work...and did.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:46 AM, T Suter 
> <suterscomput...@gmail.com<mailto:suterscomput...@gmail.com 
> >> wrote:
> Delawder,
>
>
>
> I remember back in a former life....being a supervisor in a factory.  
> All my floor personnel was union....and I wasn't of course.  While I  
> could go on and on about what I know of that experience, I'll just  
> say that I was less than happy several times when I would go to do  
> some labor because a person was sick.  The politics of that whole  
> situation superimposed onto the politics already manifested for a  
> Director who DOESN'T have to deal with union subordinates, screams  
> Rolaids.  Does the benefit package have some sort of comprehensive  
> care/life insurance for stress related illnesses, mental or  
> physical, that is sure to take the Director down?
>
> I guess if that budget is all the district can do for their  
> technology, the new courageous soul taking on that load of a  
> position should be allowed to enlist the most diligent and creative  
> grant writer that would find some tech funds for that budget to  
> upgrade that heaping pile of a collision domain.  While I believe  
> that throwing money at something doesn't necessarily always fix  
> it....$300,000 a year for a tech budget of a school that size with  
> the problems it has.............- WOW!  Isn't that like an early/mid  
> 90's budget?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Mike Oliveri <mike.oliv...@student.rb60.com 
> <mailto:mike.oliv...@student.rb60.com>> wrote:
> I'm wondering if they're talking to Cat. State Farm gives out old  
> equipment in Bloomington, so I'm wondering if Cat does the same.  
> They've got their big offices downtown and facilities all over the  
> area.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:03 AM, Richard Kasson wrote:
>
> > Let me get this straight.  The techs are all union so the tech  
> director
> > can't touch the equipment?  That's the scariest part.  Does that  
> budget
> > figure include the salaries or are salaries separate.  If salaries  
> are
> > separate, you can get creative and make it work.  I manage on  
> $25,000 a year
> > or less depending on what my REAP grant is and whether Congress  
> continues to
> > fund it.  You just have to find and use available resources that  
> provide
> > things for free.  There is absolutely no reason that those techs  
> shouldn't
> > be visiting Rock Island arsenal on a regular basis to take  
> advantage of what
> > the Army is rotating out of service.  There's some pretty nice two  
> and
> > three-year-old equipment available.  All it takes is someone to  
> fill out the
> > paperwork and watch the website.
> >
> > That login thing is a bit worrisome.  I had 9 year old Celeron  
> 600s with 64
> > MB RAM that didn't take 20 minutes to login, even when we were a  
> Novell
> > Network.  Something definitely ain't correct there.
> >
> > It does sound like a challenge and it would be a blast to give it  
> a shot -
> > if I lived closer.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: 
> > tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org<mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org 
> >
> > [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org<mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org
> >  
> >] On Behalf Of Mike Oliveri
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 7:08 PM
> > To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Job Opening - Dir of Tech
> >
> > That's what I'm thinking.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > On Oct 20, 2010, at 6:28 PM, Heath Henderson wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, failure, but from the creative standpoint, it sure would be  
> fun to
> > try. From the technical side (outside of the tech plan etc) it  
> sure would be
> > challenging to try and get that system fixed back up right. Sounds  
> like the
> > infrastructure is there though.
> >>
> >> -Heath Henderson
> >>
> >> On Oct 20, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Jason Livezey 
> >> <jlive...@nlsd122.org<mailto:jlive...@nlsd122.org 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> It is going to be really hard for a Director if he or she can't  
> touch
> > anything.  I have to manage things on a daily basis just so I can  
> make an
> > educated decision about what I need and who is going to manage it.
> > Obviously something is seriously wrong with their setup if they  
> have login
> > times of 20+ minutes.  That basically means those machines are  
> useless...
> >>>
> >>> You would have to go backwards before you could go forward.    
> With that
> > current budget you could only spend about $7500K a building if you  
> divided
> > equally.  With a district that big a budget like that for tech is  
> just bad.
> >>>
> >>> Talk about setting up for failure...
> >>>
> >>> JL
> >>>
> >>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Delawder, Scott wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Union District means no Hands on for the Director
> >>>
> >>> Jason Livezey
> >>> Director of Technology
> >>> New Lenox School District #122
> >>> Cell: 815.693.9338
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