On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 12:24:25AM +0300, Jusa Saari wrote:
> On Mon, 08 May 2006 21:26:54 +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> 
> > I think Freemail is quite an important app. I think it would be very
> > useful from a political standpoint (it tops Guerra's wishlist), from a
> > self hosting development standpoint (the rest is easy once we have email),
> > and for various other reasons.
> > 
> > Should it be in the top 4 SoC apps? If not, can you give me a specific
> > reason why not? I admit that its implementation in the current system will
> > be a bit ugly, but I'm not sure this is a serious problem *as long as
> > routing works*. 0.8 might introduce server messaging and so on, but IMHO
> > we should use the storage layer as much as possible; this is why I want to
> > use passive requests to implement pub/sub. Anything that relies on a
> > server being up right at the instant of the message being sent is
> > susceptible to intersection attacks; we should play to our strengths,
> > namely non-real-time communication. (I insert ... you request).
> 
> Why won't you simply use Frost ? Just make a channel to serve as your
> inbox, and request that people encrypt their mail with your public key
> (which Frost already supports). Channelname collisions won't be a problem
> either, since Frost uses SSK keys for them. Besides, nearly every Freenet
> user is likely to have Frost, since it is one of the few programs that
> actually do anything usefull there (no, browsing Freeweb is not usefull at
> current speeds and bitrot rate, or at least wasn't the last time I tried
> it).

When did you try it last? :)

Frost is primarily about boards, and it can't be easily gatewayed to
regular email because it doesn't have the same features. Something that
could be would be useful; we could gateway the lists, for instance, and
save people the considerable trouble of setting up 2-way mixmaster
accounts. It's also been specifically asked for by rguerra, who has
considerable experience and contacts amongst people working in dark
places.
> 
> Or, if you want to use an email program for communication, add POP
> protocol to Frost. It is open source, after all.

Frost doesn't do the same thing as email.
> 
> Or have a look at FMB. That, too, offers e-mail like functionality over
> Freenet.

FMB is dead, and has been dead for a long time.
-- 
Matthew J Toseland - toad at amphibian.dyndns.org
Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/
ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so.
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