2008/10/23 Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org>: > On Tuesday 07 October 2008 03:40, Daniel Cheng wrote: >> 2008/10/7 Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org>: >> > On Sunday 05 October 2008 08:31, Daniel Cheng wrote: >> >> 2008/10/4 Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org>: >> >> > On Saturday 04 October 2008 02:23, Daniel Cheng wrote: >> >> >> 2008/10/4 Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org>: >> >> >> > On Friday 03 October 2008 17:27, Michael Rogers wrote: >> >> >> >> Can't remember whether this has been raised before, but a random > walk >> >> >> >> terminates at a given node with probability proportional to the > node's >> >> >> >> degree; does this mean high-degree nodes are more likely to receive >> > swap >> >> >> >> requests than low-degree nodes? Seems like that could be disruptive > in >> >> >> >> two ways: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 1) When a high-degree node changes its location, many other nodes > are >> >> >> >> affected. >> >> >> >> >> >> If you/vive/oskar are looking at the the degree thing... please review >> >> >> this as well: >> >> >> http://code.bulix.org/20bjpk-68537 >> >> >> >> >> >> This patch remove the opennet location from swapping -- >> >> >> essentially seperating the darknet and openet. >> >> > >> >> > Why would that be beneficial? You're still treating them as the same > for >> >> > routing purposes? >> >> >> >> darknet links are stable, opennet links are not. >> >> swapping should depends on (and only depends on) something stable, >> >> or the location won't be stable. >> > >> > Possibly. But then we have to figure out how to route between independant >> > networks, which we haven't solved yet. >> >> The good thing about opennet is: It don't need swapping to work. >> Just give each node a random location, it would figure out the linkage >> and routing itself. >> >> Darknet need swapping in order to work. >> Disabling swapping on hybrid node just make the darknet links >> completly unusable. >> >> I suggest *enable* swapping on hybrid node and *ignore* opennet location. >> >> *enable* swapping on hybrid node >> ---> * darknet would work only if you swap >> >> * too few darknet-only node on the network, >> swapping location between ~100 unevenly distributed >> nodes is ..... useless. >> >> *ignore* opennet location >> ---> * opennet location is unstable, no reason depending on it > > The opennet location is fixed. So it is stable.
peer location are not. links changes >> * this does not hurt openet: >> opennet is self-organizing, >> as long as the location is stable, it would work. >> >> * bad (unused) opennet link would just fallout >> there is no waste of connection slots . >> >> >> >> >> >> 2) There might be some correlation between degree and other >> > properties: >> >> >> >> high-degree darknet nodes might belong to committed users with > large >> >> >> >> stores, in which case it's particularly disruptive if those nodes > keep >> >> >> >> moving. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Just a thought. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I don't know. This looks like a question for vive/oskar. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> >> Michael >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Tech mailing list >> > Tech at freenetproject.org >> > http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tech >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Tech mailing list >> Tech at freenetproject.org >> http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tech >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Tech mailing list > Tech at freenetproject.org > http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tech >
