On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Brad Knowles wrote: > on 3/16/09 11:03 PM, [email protected] said: > >>> Instead of making silly assumptions out of ignorance and publicly >>> embarrassing yourself, you really should try actually reading the page at >>> <http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Support/SelectingOffsiteNTPServers>. >> >> who's talking about offsite ntp servers? > > You still can't be bothered to go read the page I'm telling you to go read, > eh? > > Have you ever considered that maybe I'm telling you to go read that page > because it actually has the answers to your questions? Or do you refuse to > read any page anywhere that has a title that you disagree with?
I doubted that it would have any useful info from it's title. I've gone and read it and I still think it's pretty useless. it makes blanket statements about what's best and what's worthless, but without any justification other than 'because I say so' I think that the suggestions that it's making are reasonable for the situation it's targeted at (which as the subject says is 'selecting _OFFSITE_ ntp servers' >> I can either point my clients at the two proxy firewalls/ntp servers, point >> them at one (and not have any redundancy), point them at a VIP (which is >> evil according to you, and common ntp software won't do), or try and >> convince management that I need to add 50% more devices to solve some sort >> of critical NTP problem that hasn't manifested itself in the last decade >> that these systems have been running (and then if a device fails I'm back >> to two ntp servers, which is somehow total evil) > > There are a number of different ways to resolve these issues, depending on > what is important to you. If you ever bothered to read the pages I > recommend, and to use the other resources that I recommend, all this could be > explained to you. no, it just says that I should have at least four, and preferrably 5-7 boxes in each place that I currently have 2. > But if you want to die of thirst while standing next to the water bucket, and > you refuse to be lead to the water bucket because it has a name on it that > you disagree with (like maybe "Agua"), there's not much I can do to help. > > You're on your own. I'm washing my hands of you. as long as you stop claiming that everyone should do exactly what you think is best (and there are never any situations where your off-the-cuff advice could be wrong), that's fine with me. David Lang _______________________________________________ Tech mailing list [email protected] http://lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tech This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators http://lopsa.org/
