on 3/16/09 12:31 AM, [email protected] said:

> actually, IMHO, you didn't explain very much at all in your article, you 
> basicly stated that any competent person would know why having two NTP 
> servers is worse than having one (with no information or links explaining 
> your reasoning for this),

The editors screwed up the article and didn't include my footnote.  See 
section 5.3.3 of the page at 
<http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Support/SelectingOffsiteNTPServers>.

> P.S. there is a _very_ good reason for configuring systems to point at two 
> NTP servers instead of one,

Unfortunately, this is one of the more common misconceptions.  It all 
has to do with the way the NTP peer selection algorithm works.  It never 
averages numbers.  It is designed to throw away the two outliers from 
the geometric mean (the highest and the lowest), and then see who is 
left.  It keeps doing this until it gets down to one clock that is 
closer to the geometric mean than any other.

When you have only two upstream clocks, neither of them can be closer to 
the mean than the other, and then you're off into LaLa Land where 
anything whacky could potentially be done and probably is being done 
billions and billions of times around the world on a daily or even 
hourly basis.

>                               it means that the clocks will remain synced 
> much better if one NTP server dies rathat than having them all go off in 
> their own directions. the time may not ever be as precise as the single 
> NTP server case, but it's good enough for almost all real-world 
> applications.

Unfortunately, this claim is demonstrably wrong.  And the fact that you 
claim it is correct just goes to show the level of misunderstanding, 
misconceptions, and misinformation that keeps getting propagated on a 
daily basis.

I'm sure you didn't intend to propagate a misconception, but that 
doesn't reduce the damage you may have already done over the years by 
telling people this same story, time after time.

-- 
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