on 3/15/09 11:08 PM, Robert Hajime Lanning said:

> heh, you didn't even get what I was talking about.  So, does those
> millions of people MANAGE the DNS anycast networks, or even know they
> exist?  I wasn't talking about any affected community.  I was talking
> about how many sysadmins manage an anycast network.

I did get what you were talking about, and you were obviously missing 
the point.


The problem with anycast and DNS has absolutely nothing to do with the 
people who are administering it, since the anycast addresses are just 
used to serve the DNS queries, and all real administration is done 
directly to the real IP address of the machine.  The anycast address is 
just an alias that isn't used for anything but DNS.

Therefore, route flaps aren't a problem for the administrative side of 
the house.

If you don't get it, then read that sentence again.


Route flaps are *ONLY* a problem for the customer side, because they're 
the only ones who would be doing TCP-based DNS communications to the 
anycast alias, when their connection gets hosed as a result of a route flap.

A flap that messes up routing for the anycast address would have no 
effect on the route for the real IP address of any given machine, unless 
that was a problem that affect the whole site and in that case they've 
got bigger problems to worry about.


The admins most likely would never even know if a route flap did occur 
and did take down some customer communications, if they weren't actively 
monitoring their systems from the outside and posing as customers.

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