Brian Mathis disturbed my sleep to write: > I think your problem is reflected in the terminology you are using. > "ILOM" is a Sun-ism, and when you're looking a Intel/Dell servers, > they just don't work the same way, so it seems you are evaluating the > Dells with invalid criteria. Stop calling it an ILOM to help change > your perception.
Sorry, I didn't realize that...I thought I'd seen some HP marketing bumpf talking about this, so I thought it was a general term. One other thing I didn't make clear is that I'm not talking about Sun Sparc servers, but Sun x86 servers. I've got a little bit of experience w/the former, and I agree that x86 stuff isn't there yet -- but the x86 whatever-you-call-it for Sun servers seem to behave a lot better, and that's what I've got experience with, so that's what I've got as a basis for comparison. > - Serial access: I am running both Dell PE2950 and R710s. They all > have acceptable serial redirection built into the BIOS, though you > need to configure it. This is only enough to get you into the BIOS > screens though. You need to configure GRUB, the Linux kernel, and a > getty to run on the serial line. That's just the way it is. In > reality you will almost never be using this method of access (use ssh > + sudo). Doing that already, and while it's rare to use it it's invaluable when I need it; LDAP has gone away, or the network connection is having problems, or even just to verify that Linux's OOM management has failed again (I've probably misconfigured it) and I need to reboot. > - Remote console access: This is handled on PC Servers by using > integrated remote console cards like a DRAC, and/or an external > IP-based KVM. I have both of these. As you probably know, once you > get Linux up and running you don't need console access very often, so > you'll only need these in an emergency. Sorry, I think I confused "serial redirection" and "remote console"...my bad. > - For firmware versions, checking that just needs to be part of your > build/test process. Assume that whatever BIOS/firmware versions you > get shipped are out of date anyway, so you'll need to download the > updates and install. Fair enough. > Obviously I'm talking Dell here, as that's what I know. The only > other vendor I've used is HP, but they got on my nerves when they > started charging piecemeal license fees for each feature you wanted to > use in the iLO (such as access to a graphical console window is an > extra fee on top of access to a text console window). Aha...did not know that. Thanks for the heads-up. -- Hugh Brown http://saintaardvarkthecarpeted.com Because the plural of Anecdote is Myth.
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