On 2020/05/02 00:43, Stephan Mending wrote:
> On 02/05/2020 00:40, Stuart Henderson wrote:
> > On 2020/05/02 00:23, Stephan Mending wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I actually read your thread. By what I understood you're at the moment
> > > trying to change a few defaults.
> > > 
> > > That was the reason I wanted to add SHA1 for removal. I just thought it
> > > deserved a seperate thread.
> > > 
> > > I do understand that you're trying to be careful with removing or changing
> > > defaults. From my point of view everybody that is (maybe implicitly) using
> > > SHA1 right now is better off to be get this wakeup call the earlier the
> > > better.
> > > 
> > > We aren't even removing SHA1 we're just not offering it as default. And 
> > > for
> > > those Windows boxes who require it, those people just have to add a line 
> > > to
> > > explicitly enable it. I would not see such big of a problem.
> > The things removed recently have a very low risk of affecting anyone.
> > sha1 (and modp1024) are high risk.
> > 
> > Removing from the default list may cause some people to be unable
> > to connect to their network after updating. This may mean that they
> > are then unable to connect back in to fix it.
> > 
> > If this change is made it needs to be done fairly early in the release
> > cycle, and preferably at a time when slightly fewer people are relying
> > on working remote access to get at their networks.
> > 
> 
> I dont't have much experience with such a big projekt like OpenBSD. How do
> you normally carry through with such significant changes ? Just the release
> notes and hoping somebody in snaps will complain ? Or is there more to it,
> which I didn't notice ?
> 

Testing where we can, but allowing for the fact that we can't test
everything riskier changes need to be done at a point where we have a
good chance to get feedback from -current users so we can come up with
good advice for release notes.

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