Stuart Henderson <s...@spacehopper.org> wrote:

> On 2021/02/20 09:20, Remi Locherer wrote:
> > On February 19, 2021 8:56:31 PM UTC, Stuart Henderson 
> > <s...@spacehopper.org> wrote:
> > >Canvassing opinions on having . and ! this way around. I'm using . for
> > >response, ! for no response, which makes more sense to me but it's been
> > >pointed out that it's the opposite of what cisco does so it might
> > >confuse
> > >some people.
> > 
> > Also Junos uses "!" for sucessfull pings and "." for no response.
> > https://kb.juniper.net/InfoCenter/index?page=content&id=KB25251
> > 
> > And if I remember it corectly then Brocade did it the same way as Cisco.
> > 
> > The "-g" flag is used differently in various ping implementations. From man 
> > pages:
> > * FreeBSD: - g is sweepmi size.
> > * NetBSD: -g is used to specify a gateway for loose source routing.
> > * Illumos: same as NetBSD
> > * Linux: no -g
> > 
> > 
> > I like the feature and think -g is fine. I would prefer if our ping would 
> > use "!" in the same way as Cisco. That is probably als consistent with -f 
> > where a "." also stands for a echo request.
> 
> That's a good point about -f. I was thinking . is similar to how
> it looks in -f output, but really the "."s build up when there are no
> replies and it prints a backspace for a received response.
> I've had offlist replies in favour of both directions but let's
> go with the same polarity as junos/cisco.

I don't think of if like -f.  It is different, and as long as it explains 
itself,
and speaks to what people are used to, then it is good.

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