On 09/08/2011 05:38 PM, Stéphane Graber wrote:
On 09/08/2011 07:03 PM, Iain Lane wrote:Hi there,Thanks for taking the poll. On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 03:40:47PM -0700, Jono Bacon wrote:Hi Everyone, I have just published the report highlighting the findings from theUbuntu Developer Survey I ran recently. It is at http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/09/08/ubuntu-developer-survey-report-and-next-steps/I think it would be useful to organize a joint TB/DMB meeting to discuss the findings. Maybe we could do this at the next scheduled TB meeting - would you folks be open to that?The next TB meeting isn't for 2 weeks, which is quite a while. We have a DMB meeting on Monday @ 1900UTC though, which could work? We've got one application to do and Micah's appointment to ratify so if you guys join us at 1930? We could maybe carry on until 2100 if necessary. Dunno, just a thought. Having read the report, I'm concerned about the low response rate. Also some of the comments quoted talk about going to the TB or MOTU council, processes which haven't been used for quite a significant amount of time, which makes me wonder that the information isn't fresh. This is further backed up by your graph about Canonical employment. Take a look at Mackenzie's recent record keeping http://people.ubuntu.com/~maco.m/dmb_record_keeping.html and note the proportion of recent (since February) applicants that worked for C. This indicates to me that a serious number of people who have been through the DMB process (and /especially/ a significant number of people who interacted with the current DMB, who were the butt of the recent "discussions") didn't reply to the survey. Cheers,Hi Jono, Thanks for running that survey and for the report.I agree with all of Iain's comments, there are definitely things we can learn from that report, which at least for me sounds like, more documentation on upload rights and how to get there.
Indeed.
I honestly don't remember the questions from that survey but by the report I'd think there wasn't a "Did you apply through the DMB or before it got created?" question which would have helped us a lot analyzing these results.
Unfortunately there wasn't that question in the survey.
I know the DMB is very far from being perfect and we've had quite a few issues with quorum lately but I'm still surprised that so many people (applicants for coredev and PPU) found our processing time to be poor or below average when I think the longest wait time we had was two meetings, which in our case means a month. I seem to remember waiting a lot longer than that when applying for per package upload, motu and coredev myself and finding that to be perfectly normal.
Do you feel we could reduce this time?
Anyway, I agree that having an IRC meeting to publicly discuss these results would be nice and the next DMB meeting would be a good candidate for that.Next TB meeting is on beta2 release day, so I'd think most of us are going to be quite busy with other things on that day, having it sooner would be great.
Sounds great. Can everyone make it along to the DMB meeting on 12th Sep?
Jono
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