On 09/08/2011 07:03 PM, Iain Lane wrote:
Hi there,
Thanks for taking the poll.
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 03:40:47PM -0700, Jono Bacon wrote:
Hi Everyone,
I have just published the report highlighting the findings from the
Ubuntu Developer Survey I ran recently. It is at
http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/09/08/ubuntu-developer-survey-report-and-next-steps/
I think it would be useful to organize a joint TB/DMB meeting to
discuss the findings. Maybe we could do this at the next scheduled
TB meeting - would you folks be open to that?
The next TB meeting isn't for 2 weeks, which is quite a while. We have a
DMB meeting on Monday @ 1900UTC though, which could work? We've got one
application to do and Micah's appointment to ratify so if you guys join
us at 1930? We could maybe carry on until 2100 if necessary. Dunno, just
a thought.
Having read the report, I'm concerned about the low response rate. Also
some of the comments quoted talk about going to the TB or MOTU council,
processes which haven't been used for quite a significant amount of
time, which makes me wonder that the information isn't fresh. This is
further backed up by your graph about Canonical employment. Take a look
at Mackenzie's recent record keeping
http://people.ubuntu.com/~maco.m/dmb_record_keeping.html
and note the proportion of recent (since February) applicants that
worked for C. This indicates to me that a serious number of people who
have been through the DMB process (and /especially/ a significant number
of people who interacted with the current DMB, who were the butt of the
recent "discussions") didn't reply to the survey.
Cheers,
Hi Jono,
Thanks for running that survey and for the report.
I agree with all of Iain's comments, there are definitely things we can
learn from that report, which at least for me sounds like, more
documentation on upload rights and how to get there.
I honestly don't remember the questions from that survey but by the
report I'd think there wasn't a "Did you apply through the DMB or before
it got created?" question which would have helped us a lot analyzing
these results.
I know the DMB is very far from being perfect and we've had quite a few
issues with quorum lately but I'm still surprised that so many people
(applicants for coredev and PPU) found our processing time to be poor or
below average when I think the longest wait time we had was two
meetings, which in our case means a month.
I seem to remember waiting a lot longer than that when applying for per
package upload, motu and coredev myself and finding that to be perfectly
normal.
Anyway, I agree that having an IRC meeting to publicly discuss these
results would be nice and the next DMB meeting would be a good candidate
for that.
Next TB meeting is on beta2 release day, so I'd think most of us are
going to be quite busy with other things on that day, having it sooner
would be great.
Thanks
--
Stéphane Graber
Ubuntu developer
http://www.ubuntu.com
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