Take it or leave it but I can bouch for what I'm saying.

With the latest TB6 whatever the version number is now WE isn't accessible with that software, GW Micro are aware of the problem and plan to fix the issue in the next update of WE so there we are! that's been published on the GW Micro mailing list about half a dozen times in response to question other WE users have had, GW Micro suggest that Thunderbird users roll back the version of Thunderbird to 3.1.

Now there are ways of course round the problem which seems to have something to do with browse mode, you but that only seems to work half of the time so its just much easier having NVDA on hand.

Regardless of all this though, GW Micro should be ashamed of themselves, Thunderbird uses pretty much standard controls which can be accessed by Screen Readers.

I know a blind person here who sells JAWS as part of his job, I wondered whether JAWS could access the latest TB so I asked the person I know for an explanation, he told me that if you make some adjustments to TB then everything works fine which is about what I'd expect.

So no, sorry Lynne, I'm not making it up when I say that WE isn't accessible with the latest TB version, not only do subscribers to the gw-info list tell a similar tale but both my PC's relate the same sorry saga.



On 3/09/2011 9:46 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote:
Hello Dane

Your point about Thunderbird would seem to be in direct contradiction to that 
which others have made elsewhere. Just as the point that whoever it was made 
about the AppleTV is in contradiction to what we know to be the truth. In fact 
according to GW Micro, Thunderbird is their client of choice for Window-Eyes 
7.5 users running Windows 7. Why then would they not interact together? I don't 
really want to start getting mixed up in too many third party observations and, 
worse yet, opinions. By that I mean some of the garbage that's floating around 
in the clearly very polarised communities. There are those, for instance, who 
swear by Jaws and won't use anything else. There are those who, to the 
contrary, swear by WE and wo't use anything else. I'm sure the same is true of 
System Access, NVDA and even HAL. And that doesn't even take into account those 
utilities such as Zoom and SuperNova.

The core of this study will be the generics, not the specifics. In other words, 
I'm not looking to concentrate too much on specific applications so, whilst 
Thunderbird will probably get a mention after testing of some sorts, I won't be 
spending hours on trying to find out which screen-reader works better than 
which with it on a specific basis.

Personal opinion plays a big part in what is "best", and I don't want to get 
bobbed down with that. I'm only interested in what works, not what's preferred by 
individual users. I take the comment onboard, and appreciate it; but I can't allow 
personal bias one way or the other to influence the final analysis.

Lynne


On 3 Sep 2011, at 12:32, Dane Trethowan wrote:

David makes a good point and that is that NVDA is often more accessible with software 
than is JAWS or - believe it or not - Dindow-Eyes and these things are incredibly 
surprising, what if I told you that Window-Eyes and the latest version of Thunderbird 
email client didn't get along? Well fact is they don't, from all accounts JAWS seems 
to work okay with TB and certainly NVDA does and always has done - how else could I 
write this message<smile>.




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