Window-Eyes is a time unlimited 30 minute demo. It has been like this since 4.2 or possibly lower. 4.2 was the first ever version I tried. At that time it was rubbish but wow, look at 7.5 or even 7.5.1!

On 03/09/2011 13:43, David Griffith wrote:
There are supporters of both Window
Eyes and Jaws.  The penetration of Jaws into the screen reader market far 
outstrips Window Eyes  Eyes though so I think you should perhaps reconsider 
excluding it to provide best context for your study .
I have not got the stats to hand but the last time I looked at survey  data  
jaws continued   to have over 70% usage compared to other screen readers. This 
of course does not mean that it is a superior product. These survey findings 
have been hotly discussed on other lists and people argue, perhaps reasonably 
that Jaws dominance is perhaps due to technology assessors not looking beyond 
the Jaws option.    Fortunately it is feasible to use Jaws as a free resource . 
Any  version of Jaws after I think Jaws 7 can be downloaded and used as a time 
unlimited 40 minute demo. This is why nowadays it is perfectly feasible to use 
Jaws in conjunction with a free option. Things may have  changed on the Windows 
Eyes front but the last time I looked the 30 minute  demo was a time limited 
feature. I hope that this is no longer the case.    ..
David Griffith
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On 3 Sep 2011, at 12:27, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote:

Hello David

There is one name you've missed out here and to be honest, it would probably be 
the one I use alongside NVDA for the purposes of this experiment. That being 
Window-Eyes from GW Micro. Gordon has a licensed copy of WE 7.5.1 although he's 
distinctly unimpressed by what it has to offer as opposed to the previous 
version. Jaws is what I presume you mean by JFW and it is a reader which I have 
never even seen. As a visually abled person I only see what is available to me 
in the accessibility field but I think the route I will go here is to install 
the latest version of NVDA alongside the latest version of Window-Eyes. That 
should suffice for the project I am undertaking.

there is actually a practical reason why I'm doing this; a friend of ours who 
works for Teesside University is engaged is a lecturer in computer science at 
the university and he was looking for somebody in my situation who would be 
willing to volunteer to help him compile a module on accessibility for use in 
the upcoming academic year by his students so I volunteered. He contacted 
Gordon and I because he's a friend of ours as I said and he didn't know anybody 
else who he could ask. We think it's good that he's interested in adding a 
module based around accessibility into his lectures and Gordon and I will be 
going over there to give a practical demonstration and a talk to one of his 
students' groups. I want to be as informed as possible, and that is the prime 
reason I'm taking this on.

Of course there will be a discussion of Voiceover and Zoom on both Mac  OS X 
and iOS as well. I want the sessions we do over there to be as broad-ranging as 
possible.

Lynne

On 3 Sep 2011, at 11:29, David Griffith wrote:

I would include the free NVDA screenreader as part of your study. I have se up 
Windows 7 under VM Fusion in order to retain access to my   must have utilities 
whilst I make the transition to the Mac. Although NVDA is free it sometimes 
outperforms the Jaws 11 screenreader I am using. Some programs which are 
inaccessible with Jaws are perfectly accessible with NVDA. The reverse is true 
so it is generally a good idea to have at least a free 40 minute demo version 
of jaws alongside NVDA if you want to go the free route. The other advantage of 
NVDA is that it can be run portably on any Windows system without having to 
install special drivers.
Similar points have also been made about the free SA to  Go screen reader which 
runs from a web connection. I have not found it necessary to use this as NVDA 
meets all my portable needs.


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