Helo Travis I've just been as good as told, by another member of this group who doesn't have vision, that my views are not worth the consideration because I'm fortunate enough to be able to see. I just don't get the logic behind isolationism based on a disability; but there we are.
All the same, I'm going to offer a view for the discussion by those who do think that somebody with vision shouldn't be excluded as an "Outsider", "Intruder", call it what you will. I happen to think that you're right, Travis. All of these accessibility companies producing grossly over-priced and often over-rated products for the supposed benefit of the visually impaired are just a huge racket. I hope you'll forgive me for offering the view that visually impaired or otherwise disabled persons have just as much right to access to information technology as the rest of us do; and they shouldn't have to pay vastly inflated prices for the privilege. What I'm saying is that if these companies would only realise it, there's a market there without bumping up the prices. Apple has proven that much by offering VoiceOver as part of its desktop and mobile products. Window-Eyes itself is becoming more like JFW, so I'm told, in terms of the company's approach to sales, support and the product as a whole. It's kind of like if you can't beat 'em, join 'em! Lynne On 27 Dec 2011, at 12:13, Travis Siegel wrote: Yah, I had a very bad experience with gwmicro a couple years ago. I'd gotten on the rental plan. Basically, you pay a hundred bucks a month for so many months, then after your time is up, they'd send you the full version of the software, and you're all done. Well, after about 4 or 5 months, I'd been paying, but not using the codes, because I didn't need them at the time. But when I did finally start using them, I wound up using all three in a single day, because everytime I rebooted, we would claim it wasn't registered, and needed a new code. Also, it turns out that during this timeframe, 6.0 came out (I'd started during 5.5's time) and gwmicro never did send me an updated copy of 6.0. After complaining, and asking for new codes, I was told no, but I was welcome to continue the payment plan, and they'd happily send me version 6.0 when I'd paid the remainder of my term. Needless to say, I declined their offer, and no longer consider we to be worthwhile. If I wanted treatment like that, I'd pay my upgrade fee, and get my sma back for jaws. These companies just don't get it. <sigh> Ah well. One of these days ... enjoy. ======================================= The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at either of the following websites: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html Or: <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]> you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at: <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml> --------------------------------------- ======================================= The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web pages located at http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at either of the following websites: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html Or: <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]> you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. The feed is at: <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml> ---------------------------------------
