Hi LeRoy,

So you can keep the e-mails going, you better save that for your ISP!


-- 
Best regards,
 
 Bil Green 
 2001 TV VCR
 Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546
 760-934-2001                           mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Saturday, April 3, 2004, 10:18:41 AM, you wrote:

LW> Little ole Ladies are the best for home service calls.
LW> I just did one yesterday. I drove 12 miles, but, I had to go over that
LW> direction anyway, so the gas didn't apply.
LW> All I had to do was un-plud the Sat. RX for a few seconds, and plug it in,
LW> so it would re-set itself. The TV had a vertical retrace problem
LW> also,...but, she said she was used to that, and since it was an OLD 25"
LW> Zenith console, she declined my estimate of $95 to pull the chassis, and
LW> replace the e-caps in the vertical. I just charged her $30, and happly went
LW> on me way. Can't charge much for a service call around here. I was lucky to
LW> get the minimum amount out of her,...although she didn't complain. She just
LW> went in the bedroom, and came back with $30 CASH. That's the most $$$ I've
LW> made in the last 3 weeks ! (and that's NO lie.)
LW> ;-)

LW> LLW

LW> LeRoy Westlund
LW> Westlund TV & Electronics
LW> 97 North Main                                "Where there's a will,...
LW> Centerfield, UT 84622-0087           There's always a way."
LW> Ph./Fax  435-528-3822
LW> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

LW> -----Original Message-----
LW> From: Ed Gaidies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
LW> To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
LW> Date: Saturday, April 03, 2004 10:12 AM
LW> Subject: Re: [Techs] Re: Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800,no video..(was
LW> vertical problem)


>>Do what you need to survive. I may have to start doing Service Calls again.
>>
>>-Ed-
>>
>>
>>
>>Tel-Tek Electronics
>>Ontario-Canada
>>
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "LeRoy Westlund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 11:54 AM
>>Subject: [Techs] Re: Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800,no video..(was vertical
>>problem)
>>
>>
>>> Hi Mark, and fellow techs.
>>> I just put FREE ESTIMATES back up on my outside sign,...and I don't want
>>> anybody to give me any sh*t about it. I've tried it BOTH ways, and I
LW> don't
>>> want to drive anymore of my customers to Wal-Mart any sooner then I have
>>to.
>>> A FREE estimate is just THAT,...if they want a more precise
>>> diagnosis,...then they will still have to pay $1 per inch for the size of
>>> the screen. $20 for 19", $25 for 25-27", and $35 for 32-40". $50-100 for
>>> PTVs.
>>> I will also require the remote control to be brought in, to qualify for
>>the
>>> FREE estimate.
>>> Cause I plan to repair, and sell them as used sets, and nobody wants to
>>buy
>>> a used TV with out a remote control. I plan to sell them for 1/2 the
LW> price
>>> that Wal-Mart charges for a new one. After all, the junk they sell is not
>>> any better then a good used TV, that has been reconditioned properly. Of
>>> course,...that has to be part of my sales pitch.
>>> I will have to convence them of that.
>>> In cases where the set is obviously a junker, I won't even accept it to
>>> start with. I will give them an unreasonably high estimate, to discourage
>>> them from even leaving it at my facility. My plan is to get some of the
>>> BEST, repairable sets, before they junk them to buy new. I am certain
LW> that
>>> there are TOO many 25-35 inch sets, that are being junked, that could be
>>> fixed and sold at a profet. I am doing  this because I am desperate. If I
>>> had many customers like the good ole days,...I would be more picky, but,
>>> things are getting scary around here. Dead, dead,...and more dead each
LW> day
>>> that passes. Hope things are better for you guys in your resective areas.
>>> You might say,...that I am making a final stab at it. Beat Wally World at
>>> their own game, and undercut them by 50%. HO, ho,.HA, ha, HE, he,.....
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> LLW
>>>
>>> LeRoy Westlund
>>> Westlund TV & Electronics
>>> 97 North Main                                "Where there's a will,...
>>> Centerfield, UT 84622-0087           There's always a way."
>>> Ph./Fax  435-528-3822
>>> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Mark Wentowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Date: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:57 PM
>>> Subject: RE: [Techs] Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800,no video..(was
>>> verticalprblm)
>>>
>>>
>>> >Jeff's a damned good tech Leroy. Nobody ever doubted that.
>>> >
>>> >What's going on in Utah. Fun fun fun
>>> >
>>> >Mark Wentowski
>>> >Perry Hill Electronics
>>> >3836 Harrison Rd.
>>> >Montgomery AL 36109
>>> >phone: (334)279-5622
>>> >fax:   (334)273-9050
>>> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> >
>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LeRoy Westlund
>>> >Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 12:21 AM
>>> >To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST
>>> >Subject: Re: [Techs] Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800,no video..(was
>>> >verticalprblm)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Well,....I'll be damned !
>>> >I wish I hadn't thrown mine away already.
>>> >Jeff,...you are a better tech then me.
>>> >Congradulations.
>>> >;-(
>>> >
>>> >LLW
>>> >
>>> >LeRoy Westlund
>>> >Westlund TV & Electronics
>>> >97 North Main                                "Where there's a will,...
>>> >Centerfield, UT 84622-0087           There's always a way."
>>> >Ph./Fax  435-528-3822
>>> >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> >
>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >From: Doug Keller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> >To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> >Date: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:11 AM
>>> >Subject: Re: [Techs] Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800, no video..(was
>>> >verticalprblm)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>Don't applaud,..........throw money!!!
>>> >>
>>> >>Doug Keller
>>> >>Wis-Kel Electronics
>>> >>101 Freeland Ave.
>>> >>Terra Alta, WV
>>> >>USA        26764
>>> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> >>http://www.tech-assist.org
>>> >>"Learn from the mistakes of others, because you
>>> >>won't live long enough to make them all yourself"
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>Intrepid Video Support wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>>Persistence pays off again...
>>> >>>After spending a lot of time in the vertical section, I came to the
>>> >conclusion my final fault was not in
>>> >>>this circuit. It was confusing since removing the vertical connector
>>for
>>> >the yoke, I got a horizontal
>>> >>>line..
>>> >>>In my checks of IC271, I found my voltage low on pin 18(s/b 5.1v).
>>> Lifting
>>> >the pin and the voltage came
>>> >>>up.
>>> >>>On connector J251, I had 1K ohms resistance pin 5 to ground,
LW> unsoldered
>>> >and isolated problem to CRT board
>>> >>>as other techs had suggested. I thought I ruled the CRT board out as
>>> shows
>>> >video on the scope on each IC
>>> >>>and injected video and the screen lit up.
>>> >>>Tracing the path back I found the final two video out IC's(that I did
>>not
>>> >replace in the beginning)
>>> >>>actually had pins 5 shorted to ground, lifted to confirm that pins 4,5
>>> >were shorted.
>>> >>>Replaced IC's and screen lit up, though decreased vertical...I put the
>>> >original EEPROM back in set and
>>> >>>picture was perfect.
>>> >>>I appreciate everyone that sent schematics and offered their help. I
>>> >couldn't have completed this task
>>> >>>without the help from this list..
>>> >>>Thank you.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Jeff Dougherty
>>> >>>Intrepid Video TV/VCR
>>> >>>263 S Front St
>>> >>>Steelton PA 17113
>>> >>>fax...717-564-4952
>>> >>>www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net
>>> >>>
>>> >>>----- Original Message -----
>>> >>>From: "Intrepid Video Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> >>>To: "ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> >>>Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 1:04 PM
>>> >>>Subject: [Techs] 2nd REQ... TA...NAP HD2717C101 27B800,no video..(was
>>> >vertical prblm)
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Going with a fresh post on this one. I still can't find the problem.
>>> >>>First thing, I found the resistors and diodes for the 13 (-/+) lines
>>bad,
>>> >replaced those and shorted
>>> >>>vertical IC.
>>> >>>Then, I had raster that was red with retrace, found the RED video IC
>>bad
>>> >on CRT board. Also, R50
>>> >>>open..replaced, then back to no video.
>>> >>>I've tried three more vertical out IC's all OEM and NTE, still no
>>video.
>>> >With the NTE in, I get some video
>>> >>>very top of screen about 1/4 inch across.
>>> >>>On IC271, 46/47, voltages were about a volt low and wave forms were
LW> low
>>> >p-p, replaced IC..no fix.
>>> >>>Wave forms in/out of SAW filter are OK.
>>> >>>On pin 1 over vertical yoke, which comes from pin 5 of vertical wave
>>form
>>> >shows about 50 vpp, very high.
>>> >>>Pin 6,7 of vertical show low pp voltage.
>>> >>>I've went over and over my traces solder, replace the resistors and
>>diode
>>> >with OEM numbers, went over the
>>> >>>CRT board again.
>>> >>>If I remove the vertical plug, I do get a horizontal line and the
LW> power
>>> >LED flashes. I checked the yoke
>>> >>>and it is about 1 ohm off from one on another set.
>>> >>>I have the schematic of this section, but am not sure what is causing
>>> >these wave forms to vary.
>>> >>>I put in another Philips IC and the wave forms are even farther off.
>>> >>>Any other ideas before I scrap this set...I've done many of these B8
>>for
>>> >the same problem and have never
>>> >>>had this type of trouble,
>>> >>>Thank you.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Jeff Dougherty
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
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