I thought I said FREE estimates. (NOT 75 cents). ;-O LLW
LeRoy Westlund Westlund TV & Electronics 97 North Main "Where there's a will,... Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 There's always a way." Ph./Fax 435-528-3822 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: Doug Keller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Saturday, April 03, 2004 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [Techs] Re: Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800, no video..(was verticalproblem) >Hey Ed, one of Leroys estimates would only set you back about 75 cents! >*ROTFLMAO* > >Doug Keller >Wis-Kel Electronics >101 Freeland Ave. >Terra Alta, WV >USA 26764 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.tech-assist.org >"Learn from the mistakes of others, because you >won't live long enough to make them all yourself" > > > > > >LeRoy Westlund wrote: > >>Hi Mark, and fellow techs. >>I just put FREE ESTIMATES back up on my outside sign,...and I don't want >>anybody to give me any sh*t about it. I've tried it BOTH ways, and I don't >>want to drive anymore of my customers to Wal-Mart any sooner then I have to. >>A FREE estimate is just THAT,...if they want a more precise >>diagnosis,...then they will still have to pay $1 per inch for the size of >>the screen. $20 for 19", $25 for 25-27", and $35 for 32-40". $50-100 for >>PTVs. >>I will also require the remote control to be brought in, to qualify for the >>FREE estimate. >>Cause I plan to repair, and sell them as used sets, and nobody wants to buy >>a used TV with out a remote control. I plan to sell them for 1/2 the price >>that Wal-Mart charges for a new one. After all, the junk they sell is not >>any better then a good used TV, that has been reconditioned properly. Of >>course,...that has to be part of my sales pitch. >>I will have to convence them of that. >>In cases where the set is obviously a junker, I won't even accept it to >>start with. I will give them an unreasonably high estimate, to discourage >>them from even leaving it at my facility. My plan is to get some of the >>BEST, repairable sets, before they junk them to buy new. I am certain that >>there are TOO many 25-35 inch sets, that are being junked, that could be >>fixed and sold at a profet. I am doing this because I am desperate. If I >>had many customers like the good ole days,...I would be more picky, but, >>things are getting scary around here. Dead, dead,...and more dead each day >>that passes. Hope things are better for you guys in your resective areas. >>You might say,...that I am making a final stab at it. Beat Wally World at >>their own game, and undercut them by 50%. HO, ho,.HA, ha, HE, he,..... >>;-) >> >>LLW >> >>LeRoy Westlund >>Westlund TV & Electronics >>97 North Main "Where there's a will,... >>Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 There's always a way." >>Ph./Fax 435-528-3822 >>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Mark Wentowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Date: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:57 PM >>Subject: RE: [Techs] Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800,no video..(was >>verticalprblm) >> >> >> >> >>>Jeff's a damned good tech Leroy. Nobody ever doubted that. >>> >>>What's going on in Utah. Fun fun fun >>> >>>Mark Wentowski >>>Perry Hill Electronics >>>3836 Harrison Rd. >>>Montgomery AL 36109 >>>phone: (334)279-5622 >>>fax: (334)273-9050 >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LeRoy Westlund >>>Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 12:21 AM >>>To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST >>>Subject: Re: [Techs] Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800,no video..(was >>>verticalprblm) >>> >>> >>>Well,....I'll be damned ! >>>I wish I hadn't thrown mine away already. >>>Jeff,...you are a better tech then me. >>>Congradulations. >>>;-( >>> >>>LLW >>> >>>LeRoy Westlund >>>Westlund TV & Electronics >>>97 North Main "Where there's a will,... >>>Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 There's always a way." >>>Ph./Fax 435-528-3822 >>>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Doug Keller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>Date: Friday, April 02, 2004 11:11 AM >>>Subject: Re: [Techs] Fixed..NAP HD2717C101 27B800, no video..(was >>>verticalprblm) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Don't applaud,..........throw money!!! >>>> >>>>Doug Keller >>>>Wis-Kel Electronics >>>>101 Freeland Ave. >>>>Terra Alta, WV >>>>USA 26764 >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>http://www.tech-assist.org >>>>"Learn from the mistakes of others, because you >>>>won't live long enough to make them all yourself" >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Intrepid Video Support wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Persistence pays off again... >>>>>After spending a lot of time in the vertical section, I came to the >>>>> >>>>> >>>conclusion my final fault was not in >>> >>> >>>>>this circuit. It was confusing since removing the vertical connector for >>>>> >>>>> >>>the yoke, I got a horizontal >>> >>> >>>>>line.. >>>>>In my checks of IC271, I found my voltage low on pin 18(s/b 5.1v). >>>>> >>>>> >>Lifting >> >> >>>the pin and the voltage came >>> >>> >>>>>up. >>>>>On connector J251, I had 1K ohms resistance pin 5 to ground, unsoldered >>>>> >>>>> >>>and isolated problem to CRT board >>> >>> >>>>>as other techs had suggested. I thought I ruled the CRT board out as >>>>> >>>>> >>shows >> >> >>>video on the scope on each IC >>> >>> >>>>>and injected video and the screen lit up. >>>>>Tracing the path back I found the final two video out IC's(that I did n ot >>>>> >>>>> >>>replace in the beginning) >>> >>> >>>>>actually had pins 5 shorted to ground, lifted to confirm that pins 4,5 >>>>> >>>>> >>>were shorted. >>> >>> >>>>>Replaced IC's and screen lit up, though decreased vertical...I put the >>>>> >>>>> >>>original EEPROM back in set and >>> >>> >>>>>picture was perfect. >>>>>I appreciate everyone that sent schematics and offered their help. I >>>>> >>>>> >>>couldn't have completed this task >>> >>> >>>>>without the help from this list.. >>>>>Thank you. >>>>> >>>>>Jeff Dougherty >>>>>Intrepid Video TV/VCR >>>>>263 S Front St >>>>>Steelton PA 17113 >>>>>fax...717-564-4952 >>>>>www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net >>>>> >>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>From: "Intrepid Video Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>To: "ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 1:04 PM >>>>>Subject: [Techs] 2nd REQ... TA...NAP HD2717C101 27B800,no video..(was >>>>> >>>>> >>>vertical prblm) >>> >>> >>>>>Going with a fresh post on this one. I still can't find the problem. >>>>>First thing, I found the resistors and diodes for the 13 (-/+) lines bad, >>>>> >>>>> >>>replaced those and shorted >>> >>> >>>>>vertical IC. >>>>>Then, I had raster that was red with retrace, found the RED video IC bad >>>>> >>>>> >>>on CRT board. Also, R50 >>> >>> >>>>>open..replaced, then back to no video. >>>>>I've tried three more vertical out IC's all OEM and NTE, still no video. >>>>> >>>>> >>>With the NTE in, I get some video >>> >>> >>>>>very top of screen about 1/4 inch across. >>>>>On IC271, 46/47, voltages were about a volt low and wave forms were low >>>>> >>>>> >>>p-p, replaced IC..no fix. >>> >>> >>>>>Wave forms in/out of SAW filter are OK. >>>>>On pin 1 over vertical yoke, which comes from pin 5 of vertical wave form >>>>> >>>>> >>>shows about 50 vpp, very high. >>> >>> >>>>>Pin 6,7 of vertical show low pp voltage. >>>>>I've went over and over my traces solder, replace the resistors and diode >>>>> >>>>> >>>with OEM numbers, went over the >>> >>> >>>>>CRT board again. >>>>>If I remove the vertical plug, I do get a horizontal line and the power >>>>> >>>>> >>>LED flashes. I checked the yoke >>> >>> >>>>>and it is about 1 ohm off from one on another set. >>>>>I have the schematic of this section, but am not sure what is causing >>>>> >>>>> >>>these wave forms to vary. >>> >>> >>>>>I put in another Philips IC and the wave forms are even farther off. >>>>>Any other ideas before I scrap this set...I've done many of these B8 for >>>>> >>>>> >>>the same problem and have never >>> >>> >>>>>had this type of trouble, >>>>>Thank you. >>>>> >>>>>Jeff Dougherty >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>Tech Repair CD...order your just $49.00 plus shipping...One year of >>>>> >>>>> >>>updates free. >>> >>> >>>>>www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net >>>>>Techs mailing list >>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>http://intrepid-video.com/mailman/listinfo/techs_intrepid-video.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Tech Repair CD...order your just $49.00 plus shipping...One year of >>>> >>>> >>updates >> >> >>>free. >>> >>> >>>>www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net >>>>Techs mailing list >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>http://intrepid-video.com/mailman/listinfo/techs_intrepid-video.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Tech Repair CD...order your just $49.00 plus shipping...One year of updates >>>free. >>>www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net >>>Techs mailing list >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>http://intrepid-video.com/mailman/listinfo/techs_intrepid-video.com >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Tech Repair CD...order your just $49.00 plus shipping...One year of updates >>> >>> >>free. >> >> >>>www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net >>>Techs mailing list >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>http://intrepid-video.com/mailman/listinfo/techs_intrepid-video.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Tech Repair CD...order your just $49.00 plus shipping...One year of updates free. >>www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net >>Techs mailing list >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>http://intrepid-video.com/mailman/listinfo/techs_intrepid-video.com >> >> >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >Tech Repair CD...order your just $49.00 plus shipping...One year of updates free. >www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net >Techs mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://intrepid-video.com/mailman/listinfo/techs_intrepid-video.com > _______________________________________________ Tech Repair CD...order your just $49.00 plus shipping...One year of updates free. www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net Techs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://intrepid-video.com/mailman/listinfo/techs_intrepid-video.com
