After a break, I'm back working on some apps using the mac studio. WHat worked 
before is no longer working, namely, connection to a database on the same 
machine.

Per previous messages, if I want the ODBC on the server, I use the New Data 
Source ODBC option, and insert jdbc information so that on the dev machine, 
it's using jdbc. I have two databases that were set up this way, and they work 
fine.

I go to create a new one, and witango studio hangs. It hangs hard, because 
after force quitting and restarting a couple of times, it actually crashed the 
OS. I had witango studio 6.07, so find there is a Terascript 6.1.5, download 
and install it. I can still see the previously created data sources just fine, 
but when I go to create a new one, Terascript hangs. Must force quit.

WHat am I doing wrong?




On Jul 30, 2011, at 2:55 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:

> ok, have jdbc running.
>
> Are you telling me that I can create a datasource using the ODBC option, but 
> connecting to the dev database using the JDBC driver, which will then on the 
> production server find an ODBC DSN of the same name and use it?  This is 
> sounding possible.
>
>
> On Jul 30, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Robert Shubert wrote:
>
>> Roland,
>>
>> The setup in Witango 6.0 + on OS X is that the Studio uses JDBC to 
>> introspect the database (to load it into the Studio Database tab for drag 
>> and drop).
>>
>> If you setup a Witango Data Source under the JDBC section, then the Studio 
>> will create TAFs that expect to use JDBC on the server, however, if you 
>> setup a Witango Data Source under the ODBC section, then the TAFs will look 
>> for ODBC DSNs when executed by the server.
>>
>> In this way, the OS X Studio can use JDBC to load the database, but you can 
>> still use ODBC on the server.
>>
>> Starting in 10.6 Apple has mostly dropped support for ODBC. I suspect this 
>> trend continued in 10.7. The iODBC subsystem is still present, but the 
>> manager is removed, JAVA support is non-existent and I'm not sure how well 
>> they are keeping up the functionality in Cocoa. I've tested with OpenLink on 
>> 10.6 and found that product to be a good solution.
>>
>> As things stand right now, Apple is neither supporting ODBC nor JDBC/Java, 
>> so database connectivity is being left out in the cold. Java 7 may resolve 
>> the JDBC issues and there's a good chance that if it does, we'll standardize 
>> on Java 7 & JDBC for connectivity support on OSX.
>>
>> I may also build in native connectors to Oracle (OCI), MSSQL (FreeTDS) and 
>> FileMaker (FMXML) but there are no immediate plans to do so.
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Roland Dumas [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 3:48 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: MacOS 10.7 ODBC
>>
>>
>> On Jul 30, 2011, at 12:33 PM, Robert Shubert wrote:
>>
>>> Roland,
>>>
>>> Could you confirm which version of the Studio were and are now using?
>> 6.0.7
>>
>>>
>>> I ask because the Witango 6.0 Studio and TeraScribe 6.1 don't support ODBC, 
>>> only JDBC.
>> really? It has New data sources: ODBC and JDBC.
>>
>>>
>>> Also, the ODBC subsystem was somewhat deprecated in 10.6 and needed to be 
>>> installed manually. This is probably the case in 10.7 as well, but I 
>>> haven't tested it. Checkout KB: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL895
>>
>> It was running prior to 10.6 and wasn't harmed when I upgraded to 10.7. It's 
>> completely hosed by upgrading to 10.7
>>
>>>
>>> The Server should still access the iodbc subsystem and DSNs, but driver 
>>> loading may be different. Also note that Lion is much more interested in 
>>> running in 64-bit, and you may be having issues with bitness and/or paths.
>>
>> I can't tell what it killed and what it just doesn't work with. On a support 
>> call to apple and getting passed around. The "enterprise" support people 
>> answer the question with "What is ODBC?" which tells me it might be hosed 
>> for good. Converting applications from ODBC to JDBC will be a significant 
>> project.
>>
>>>
>>> Robert
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Roland Dumas [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 3:04 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: MacOS 10.7 ODBC
>>>
>>> The existing DSNs don't show up in the studio, to I went to re-create, but 
>>> there are no drivers. I go to look in the regular apple ODBC admin utility, 
>>> and it's nowhere to be found. I find open link iodbc manager, and it has 
>>> the drivers and DSNs listed, but they all fail when tested. Errors are 
>>> "specified driver could not be found" and "no such file or directory"
>>>
>>> So I figured the installation of 10.7 hosed up ODBC. Looking for hints how 
>>> to repair, reinstall, etc.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 30, 2011, at 9:27 AM, Robert Shubert wrote:
>>>
>>>> Roland,
>>>>
>>>> Could you clarify that you are looking for ODBC in the Studio? And also, 
>>>> which version of the Studio and/or Server are you running?
>>>>
>>>> Robert
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Roland Dumas [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 9:40 AM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: MacOS 10.7 ODBC
>>>>
>>>> Yes, well, I have a drive with my old OS and applications while I'm 
>>>> migrating another to the new OS. You don't know all the hiccups and 
>>>> incompatibilities until you give it a shot.
>>>>
>>>> Installing Java is not a problem. I expected that ODBC would be natively 
>>>> supported by the OS as it (sorta) was previously. the upgrade wiped 
>>>> everything out. wondering what the right protocol is to re-install.
>>>> _________________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 30, 2011, at 12:42 AM, Wayne Irvine wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Robert made an announcement recently about not supporting Lion yet. That 
>>>>> said, I installed 10.7 and Lion on what of my machines that already had 
>>>>> TeraScribe installed. I also installed Java (came up as an option when I 
>>>>> went to run a Java app).
>>>>>
>>>>> TeraScribe runs fine on this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wayne Irvine
>>>>>
>>>>> On 30/07/2011, at 3:18 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> upgraded to 10.7 and installed Witango dev studio. ODBC seems missing in 
>>>>>> this OS release. Anyone know the proper way to install/revive?
>>>>>>
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