On Feb 11, 2012, at 8:24 PM, Robert Shubert wrote:
> Roland,
>
> Is there any information shown in the console?
no
>
> Are your JDBC Drivers set properly?
how do I test? pre-existing data sources work fine. Can create a JDBC data
source. Just can't create a new ODBC.
>
> Robert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roland Dumas [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 7:10 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: TeraScript-Talk: Re: Witango-Talk: MacOS 10.7 ODBC
>
> After a break, I'm back working on some apps using the mac studio. WHat
> worked before is no longer working, namely, connection to a database on the
> same machine.
>
> Per previous messages, if I want the ODBC on the server, I use the New Data
> Source ODBC option, and insert jdbc information so that on the dev machine,
> it's using jdbc. I have two databases that were set up this way, and they
> work fine.
>
> I go to create a new one, and witango studio hangs. It hangs hard, because
> after force quitting and restarting a couple of times, it actually crashed
> the OS. I had witango studio 6.07, so find there is a Terascript 6.1.5,
> download and install it. I can still see the previously created data sources
> just fine, but when I go to create a new one, Terascript hangs. Must force
> quit.
>
> WHat am I doing wrong?
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 30, 2011, at 2:55 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:
>
>> ok, have jdbc running.
>>
>> Are you telling me that I can create a datasource using the ODBC option, but
>> connecting to the dev database using the JDBC driver, which will then on the
>> production server find an ODBC DSN of the same name and use it? This is
>> sounding possible.
>>
>>
>> On Jul 30, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Robert Shubert wrote:
>>
>>> Roland,
>>>
>>> The setup in Witango 6.0 + on OS X is that the Studio uses JDBC to
>>> introspect the database (to load it into the Studio Database tab for drag
>>> and drop).
>>>
>>> If you setup a Witango Data Source under the JDBC section, then the Studio
>>> will create TAFs that expect to use JDBC on the server, however, if you
>>> setup a Witango Data Source under the ODBC section, then the TAFs will look
>>> for ODBC DSNs when executed by the server.
>>>
>>> In this way, the OS X Studio can use JDBC to load the database, but you can
>>> still use ODBC on the server.
>>>
>>> Starting in 10.6 Apple has mostly dropped support for ODBC. I suspect this
>>> trend continued in 10.7. The iODBC subsystem is still present, but the
>>> manager is removed, JAVA support is non-existent and I'm not sure how well
>>> they are keeping up the functionality in Cocoa. I've tested with OpenLink
>>> on 10.6 and found that product to be a good solution.
>>>
>>> As things stand right now, Apple is neither supporting ODBC nor JDBC/Java,
>>> so database connectivity is being left out in the cold. Java 7 may resolve
>>> the JDBC issues and there's a good chance that if it does, we'll
>>> standardize on Java 7 & JDBC for connectivity support on OSX.
>>>
>>> I may also build in native connectors to Oracle (OCI), MSSQL (FreeTDS) and
>>> FileMaker (FMXML) but there are no immediate plans to do so.
>>>
>>> Robert
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Roland Dumas [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 3:48 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: MacOS 10.7 ODBC
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 30, 2011, at 12:33 PM, Robert Shubert wrote:
>>>
>>>> Roland,
>>>>
>>>> Could you confirm which version of the Studio were and are now using?
>>> 6.0.7
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I ask because the Witango 6.0 Studio and TeraScribe 6.1 don't support
>>>> ODBC, only JDBC.
>>> really? It has New data sources: ODBC and JDBC.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Also, the ODBC subsystem was somewhat deprecated in 10.6 and needed to be
>>>> installed manually. This is probably the case in 10.7 as well, but I
>>>> haven't tested it. Checkout KB: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL895
>>>
>>> It was running prior to 10.6 and wasn't harmed when I upgraded to 10.7.
>>> It's completely hosed by upgrading to 10.7
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Server should still access the iodbc subsystem and DSNs, but driver
>>>> loading may be different. Also note that Lion is much more interested in
>>>> running in 64-bit, and you may be having issues with bitness and/or paths.
>>>
>>> I can't tell what it killed and what it just doesn't work with. On a
>>> support call to apple and getting passed around. The "enterprise" support
>>> people answer the question with "What is ODBC?" which tells me it might be
>>> hosed for good. Converting applications from ODBC to JDBC will be a
>>> significant project.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Robert
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Roland Dumas [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 3:04 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: MacOS 10.7 ODBC
>>>>
>>>> The existing DSNs don't show up in the studio, to I went to re-create, but
>>>> there are no drivers. I go to look in the regular apple ODBC admin
>>>> utility, and it's nowhere to be found. I find open link iodbc manager, and
>>>> it has the drivers and DSNs listed, but they all fail when tested. Errors
>>>> are "specified driver could not be found" and "no such file or directory"
>>>>
>>>> So I figured the installation of 10.7 hosed up ODBC. Looking for hints how
>>>> to repair, reinstall, etc.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 30, 2011, at 9:27 AM, Robert Shubert wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Roland,
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you clarify that you are looking for ODBC in the Studio? And also,
>>>>> which version of the Studio and/or Server are you running?
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Roland Dumas [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 9:40 AM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: MacOS 10.7 ODBC
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, well, I have a drive with my old OS and applications while I'm
>>>>> migrating another to the new OS. You don't know all the hiccups and
>>>>> incompatibilities until you give it a shot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Installing Java is not a problem. I expected that ODBC would be natively
>>>>> supported by the OS as it (sorta) was previously. the upgrade wiped
>>>>> everything out. wondering what the right protocol is to re-install.
>>>>> _________________________
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 30, 2011, at 12:42 AM, Wayne Irvine wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert made an announcement recently about not supporting Lion yet. That
>>>>>> said, I installed 10.7 and Lion on what of my machines that already had
>>>>>> TeraScribe installed. I also installed Java (came up as an option when I
>>>>>> went to run a Java app).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TeraScribe runs fine on this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wayne Irvine
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 30/07/2011, at 3:18 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> upgraded to 10.7 and installed Witango dev studio. ODBC seems missing
>>>>>>> in this OS release. Anyone know the proper way to install/revive?
>>>>>>>
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