wait wait…. it's a Sunday morning and the sky is clear…. and it didn't crash…. 
and I can create a datasource…..


On Feb 12, 2012, at 8:32 AM, Roland Dumas wrote:

> /Library/Java/Extensions/mysql-connector-java-5.1.17-bin.jar
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> I can create a new jdbc data source, but when I try to create an ODBC data 
> source, it either hangs the application or just does nothing. I never get to 
> a setup screen.
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> On Feb 12, 2012, at 8:22 AM, Robert Shubert wrote:
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>> JDBC Drivers is a dialog under the Data Source menu - open it and verify 
>> that your driver JARs are where the paths indicate.
>>
>> Robert
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Roland Dumas [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 1:14 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: TeraScript-Talk: Re: Witango-Talk: MacOS 10.7 ODBC
>>
>>
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>> On Feb 11, 2012, at 8:24 PM, Robert Shubert wrote:
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>>> Roland,
>>>
>>> Is there any information shown in the console?
>>
>> no
>>
>>>
>>> Are your JDBC Drivers set properly?
>>
>> how do I test? pre-existing data sources work fine.  Can create a JDBC data 
>> source. Just can't create a new ODBC.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Robert
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Roland Dumas [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 7:10 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: TeraScript-Talk: Re: Witango-Talk: MacOS 10.7 ODBC
>>>
>>> After a break, I'm back working on some apps using the mac studio. WHat 
>>> worked before is no longer working, namely, connection to a database on the 
>>> same machine.
>>>
>>> Per previous messages, if I want the ODBC on the server, I use the New Data 
>>> Source ODBC option, and insert jdbc information so that on the dev machine, 
>>> it's using jdbc. I have two databases that were set up this way, and they 
>>> work fine.
>>>
>>> I go to create a new one, and witango studio hangs. It hangs hard, because 
>>> after force quitting and restarting a couple of times, it actually crashed 
>>> the OS. I had witango studio 6.07, so find there is a Terascript 6.1.5, 
>>> download and install it. I can still see the previously created data 
>>> sources just fine, but when I go to create a new one, Terascript hangs. 
>>> Must force quit.
>>>
>>> WHat am I doing wrong?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 30, 2011, at 2:55 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:
>>>
>>>> ok, have jdbc running.
>>>>
>>>> Are you telling me that I can create a datasource using the ODBC option, 
>>>> but connecting to the dev database using the JDBC driver, which will then 
>>>> on the production server find an ODBC DSN of the same name and use it?  
>>>> This is sounding possible.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 30, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Robert Shubert wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Roland,
>>>>>
>>>>> The setup in Witango 6.0 + on OS X is that the Studio uses JDBC to 
>>>>> introspect the database (to load it into the Studio Database tab for drag 
>>>>> and drop).
>>>>>
>>>>> If you setup a Witango Data Source under the JDBC section, then the 
>>>>> Studio will create TAFs that expect to use JDBC on the server, however, 
>>>>> if you setup a Witango Data Source under the ODBC section, then the TAFs 
>>>>> will look for ODBC DSNs when executed by the server.
>>>>>
>>>>> In this way, the OS X Studio can use JDBC to load the database, but you 
>>>>> can still use ODBC on the server.
>>>>>
>>>>> Starting in 10.6 Apple has mostly dropped support for ODBC. I suspect 
>>>>> this trend continued in 10.7. The iODBC subsystem is still present, but 
>>>>> the manager is removed, JAVA support is non-existent and I'm not sure how 
>>>>> well they are keeping up the functionality in Cocoa. I've tested with 
>>>>> OpenLink on 10.6 and found that product to be a good solution.
>>>>>
>>>>> As things stand right now, Apple is neither supporting ODBC nor 
>>>>> JDBC/Java, so database connectivity is being left out in the cold. Java 7 
>>>>> may resolve the JDBC issues and there's a good chance that if it does, 
>>>>> we'll standardize on Java 7 & JDBC for connectivity support on OSX.
>>>>>
>>>>> I may also build in native connectors to Oracle (OCI), MSSQL (FreeTDS) 
>>>>> and FileMaker (FMXML) but there are no immediate plans to do so.
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Roland Dumas [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 3:48 PM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: MacOS 10.7 ODBC
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 30, 2011, at 12:33 PM, Robert Shubert wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Roland,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could you confirm which version of the Studio were and are now using?
>>>>> 6.0.7
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I ask because the Witango 6.0 Studio and TeraScribe 6.1 don't support 
>>>>>> ODBC, only JDBC.
>>>>> really? It has New data sources: ODBC and JDBC.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, the ODBC subsystem was somewhat deprecated in 10.6 and needed to 
>>>>>> be installed manually. This is probably the case in 10.7 as well, but I 
>>>>>> haven't tested it. Checkout KB: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL895
>>>>>
>>>>> It was running prior to 10.6 and wasn't harmed when I upgraded to 10.7. 
>>>>> It's completely hosed by upgrading to 10.7
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Server should still access the iodbc subsystem and DSNs, but driver 
>>>>>> loading may be different. Also note that Lion is much more interested in 
>>>>>> running in 64-bit, and you may be having issues with bitness and/or 
>>>>>> paths.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't tell what it killed and what it just doesn't work with. On a 
>>>>> support call to apple and getting passed around. The "enterprise" support 
>>>>> people answer the question with "What is ODBC?" which tells me it might 
>>>>> be hosed for good. Converting applications from ODBC to JDBC will be a 
>>>>> significant project.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Roland Dumas [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 3:04 PM
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: MacOS 10.7 ODBC
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The existing DSNs don't show up in the studio, to I went to re-create, 
>>>>>> but there are no drivers. I go to look in the regular apple ODBC admin 
>>>>>> utility, and it's nowhere to be found. I find open link iodbc manager, 
>>>>>> and it has the drivers and DSNs listed, but they all fail when tested. 
>>>>>> Errors are "specified driver could not be found" and "no such file or 
>>>>>> directory"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I figured the installation of 10.7 hosed up ODBC. Looking for hints 
>>>>>> how to repair, reinstall, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2011, at 9:27 AM, Robert Shubert wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Roland,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could you clarify that you are looking for ODBC in the Studio? And 
>>>>>>> also, which version of the Studio and/or Server are you running?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Roland Dumas [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 9:40 AM
>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: MacOS 10.7 ODBC
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, well, I have a drive with my old OS and applications while I'm 
>>>>>>> migrating another to the new OS. You don't know all the hiccups and 
>>>>>>> incompatibilities until you give it a shot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Installing Java is not a problem. I expected that ODBC would be 
>>>>>>> natively supported by the OS as it (sorta) was previously. the upgrade 
>>>>>>> wiped everything out. wondering what the right protocol is to 
>>>>>>> re-install.
>>>>>>> _________________________
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2011, at 12:42 AM, Wayne Irvine wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Robert made an announcement recently about not supporting Lion yet. 
>>>>>>>> That said, I installed 10.7 and Lion on what of my machines that 
>>>>>>>> already had TeraScribe installed. I also installed Java (came up as an 
>>>>>>>> option when I went to run a Java app).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TeraScribe runs fine on this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wayne Irvine
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 30/07/2011, at 3:18 PM, Roland Dumas wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> upgraded to 10.7 and installed Witango dev studio. ODBC seems missing 
>>>>>>>>> in this OS release. Anyone know the proper way to install/revive?
>>>>>>>>>
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