Not to be left out … Ian Daniel here, of NCOL Internet
I originally replied to Steve off-list .. but for the benefit of the community .. allow me to summarize my comments. n We use Terascript extensively; n We also develop in .NET .. and have found the same as everyone else .. it requires more time to develop .. and that impacts the bottom line. n Terascript is stable and robust, and Robert is the best thing that could have happened to the product. n The future releases that Robert has described will only increase its value to our team here. I hope this helps in decision-making … Ian From: John Muldoon [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: May-08-14 10:08 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: TeraScript-Talk: TeraScript Community Questions Hello Steve, We also have been using Tango, Witango and Terascribe and I concur to everything that Stefan has pointed out. As for mission critical applications, I have been using the product for around 100 sites on 6 servers along with several databases and have been very happy thus far. When I say mission critical, we are talking about some very large corporations located mostly in the US. We do not handle their public facing sites, but have built many portals for employees, vendors, suppliers, franchisees, etc. We also develop in .net/asp but have found that the rapid deployment is a plus when using the product. If you care to email me off the list, I would be more than happy to reply with a partial list of our clients, though I am leaving right now and won’t be back in the office until Tuesday. Regards, John Muldoon Corporate Incentives 3416 Nicollet Ave S Minneapolis, MN 55408-4552 612.822.2222 [email protected] cid:875001213@05112012-110E <http://cipromo.com/> http://cipromo.com From: Stefan Gonick [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 11:20 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: TeraScript-Talk: TeraScript Community Questions Hi Steve, I'll put in my 2 cents... Doug makes some good points, but I believe that there are other criteria as well. Otherwise, I would have changed to another language myself! Terascribe is truly a fast prototyping tool and programming language. I find that I can program twice as fast in Terascribe as in languages like PHP and ASP.NET, which are the biggest languages out there. I am NOT willing to have a drearier programming experience that takes twice as long, so I stick with Terascribe. My clients also benefit from the dollars saved in my programming time. There are some very large high performance projects that may not be suitable for Terascribe, but anything small to medium large can be handled well. I think that I remember Robert saying that Terascript should be able to handle a million page views (executions) per day. [Robert, care to update this number?] Yes, there are fewer Terascribe programmers around, but they do exist. There are good ones on this list. And it is fine to post work projects on this list. People have done so in the past. So, it really depends on what your needs are. If you are in a situation where it's really important to have a large pool of programmers to pick from, then use a mainstream language. If you are a smaller shop and want to be very competitive based on dramatically reducing programming time, then Terascribe may be a great way to go. It is for me. Stefan Stefan Gonick, MS Computer Science Database WebWorks: Dynamic web sites through database integration http://www.DatabaseWebWorks.com <http://www.databasewebworks.com/> At 10:52 AM 5/8/2014, you wrote: That’s good if it works for you… For my two cents to the group on Steve’s orriginal question: When there is a choice (PHP, .NET, Java, WiTango, etc) It is a good practice to align programming languages and technical architecture to community support and employee candidate pool. There are several ways to measure this: many hiring firms use the Tibobe index http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html to see how widely used languages are. Another resource is Indeed.com where you can enter keywords and trends: http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends Analyzing how much activity exists on Stack Overflow is another good measure http://stackoverflow.com/tags People might say that programming is programming and all good developers should be polyglot developers that can adapt to technology. While this is true, it doesn’t mean an organization shouldn’t ignore the community and use of a technology. As a Java developer, there are many times where myself or someone on my team evaluates open source frameworks within the Java community to solve a particular problem. The questions that are fair to ask (and are often asked) are: Is it still supported and active? How large is the community support? How widely used is this technology? There aren’t very many people using WiTango around the world according to any relevant metric out there. The pool of WiTango candidates in the Cincinnati area is almost certain to be small or non-existent. A friend of mine mentioned that the Clojure community felt that they achieved a milestone when there was enough support of prominent open source committers and contributors that if the founder Rich Hickey left they would still have a healthy and active development community. WiTango is not open source so as a platform it is only supported by Tronics Software. Tronics is very small and only has two people (Emily and Robert) if I’m not mistaken. It is harsh to say this as I don’t want to disparage anyone’s “babyâ€. However these are the exact same pieces of information I would give any executive with regards to the question of WiTango adoption. Doug From: John Sloatman [ mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ] Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 5:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: TeraScript-Talk: TeraScript Community Questions Not looking for endorsements. Got all I need. But I do have some awesome projects I'll need help on See I use Witango to do rapid development working demos. Then I finish in .NET The product has made me a ton of money over the years Sent from my iPhone On May 7, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Doug Holubek < [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: That’s bleeding edge… hopefully you get lots of endorsements on LinkedIn for tthat. Doug From: John Sloatman [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 11:52 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: TeraScript-Talk: TeraScript Community Questions FYI I'm still using 2.0 :) Almost 20 years _______________________________________________________________________ John K Sloatman III Emerging Technologies, LLC VoIP Consultant ________________________________ 1(213) 769-0007 Los Angeles 1(808) 426-5505 Honolulu [email protected] [] <http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?&id=HN.608016435505070183&w=300&h=300&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0> [] <http://webmenu.com/images/adminlogo.gif> _______________________________________________________________________ NOTICE: This e-mail message and any files transmitted with it is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the individual(s) named as recipients and is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. sections 2510-2521. It may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or protected from disclosure under applicable law. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it immediately from your system and notify us immediately by phone (888-502-4844) or by e-mail ([email protected]). On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Steve Kevill <[email protected] > wrote: Thanks Robert, I appreciate it. Here are some of the questions our executive team is asking: 1. How big is the Terascript developer community? 2. If we decide to outsource certain projects. can we find Terascript Developers or partners? Any locally to the Cincinnati. Ohio market? 3. Can we post project work to this list or is that not allowed or preferred? 4. This list has been a great resource and Robert has answered many questions to others and to us that have helped us in the past. Are there any other resources for support or training? Robert, can you, or have you already, provide some details as to what "fully modernize the platform" consists of? Thanks everyone for reading. We appreciate it. Steve Kevill On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Robert Shubert <[email protected]> wrote: Please do. Also, send an email to [email protected] if you have any specific questions about the product. We are currently developing the next major release which will fully modernize the platform and make it very competitive. Robert From: Steve Kevill [ mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ] Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 10:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: TeraScript-Talk: TeraScript Community Questions Hello all, I hope this question, in and of itself, is appropriate to be asked here. If not, I apologize. We are currently in the process of investigating web development platforms. We currently run WiTango 5.5 and are evaluating upgrading to TerScript, using php, or .net and others. Would this forum be the appropriate place to ask questions about the TeraScript developer community and user base? 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