yes i mean yes like any point in space between lines,so i can say say "crop
area that between y1 and y2 points".Because i think tesseract able to
detect lines ,so i thought i can get mininum bottom point of first line
words and top point of 2. line words

2015-01-08 18:09 GMT+02:00 Allistair <[email protected]>:

> No problem. Not sure I understand what you mean by detect points - a point
> to me is an (x, y) coordinate. Do you mean space? In any case, Tesseract is
> not going to do anything like that I think - you will need to perform image
> preprocessing to do that using Open CV or something.
>
> On 8 January 2015 at 16:02, Gokcer Gunes <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> And i did threshold too and i got same results with you for this inputs
>> ,but for some other inputs threshold causes them to recognize wrong such as
>> * recognizing as ' .My images recognizing great for single line and with
>> 1-2 mistake for multiple lines so i need to solve that.Thanks for great
>> response and i will be very happy if you can return me ever got idea what
>> causes that problem:).And also a last thing  can i detect points between
>> lines with tesseract to seperate image into multiple single line image?
>>
>> 2015-01-08 17:56 GMT+02:00 Allistair <[email protected]>:
>>
>>> :) I hear you, I do. From the input image perspective I looked at the 2
>>> Kaliko words and they match at the pixel level. Some part of Tesseract's
>>> internal classification system is falling over a bit here, I cannot tell
>>> you why, I can only say that OCR is not a perfect technology. It works on
>>> machine learning and classification of probabilities. What seems simple to
>>> us is not necessarily so to the OCR engine. It could be that by the time it
>>> gets to the 2nd Kaliko it thinks it has improved the 'l' recognition from
>>> the previous text to be a '1' - Tesseract has this adaptive classifier -
>>> but I am only guessing, maybe others have better ideas.
>>>
>>> On 8 January 2015 at 15:24, Gokcer Gunes <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> and also why is that? i mean at 3. line there is both  KalikoImage
>>>> which is same,but first is correctly translated to text and second one is
>>>> with one mistake
>>>>
>>>> 2015-01-08 17:17 GMT+02:00 Allistair <[email protected]>:
>>>>
>>>>> It works for me with just the threshold and no scaling (however, there
>>>>> is an error in the 2nd Kaliko where the l is misrecognised as a 1):
>>>>>
>>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/523401/codethres.png
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>
>>>>> Memorystream memstream = new MemoryStream();
>>>>>
>>>>> bitmap.Save(memstream, System.Drawing.Imaging.ImageFormat.Png);
>>>>>
>>>>> Kalikolmage imgklk = new Ka1ikoImage(memstream);
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8 January 2015 at 14:22, Gokcer Gunes <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah with more size it works better and better but it takes more time
>>>>>> also thats why im only scaling 2x around.And can i ask did you try with
>>>>>> only threshold or threshold+scaling
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2015-01-08 16:16 GMT+02:00 Allistair <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh, I also scaled the image up to 2000px wide. Larger images often
>>>>>>> work better with Tesseract so a pre-filter or sampling up can help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8 January 2015 at 14:16, Allistair <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is the image I am providing to Tesseract
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/523401/code.png
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's your image with a quick threshold performed in Photoshop.
>>>>>>>> Notice that you need to ensure the threshold makes all text black.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 8 January 2015 at 13:47, Gokcer Gunes <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i tried with threshold filters too but i didnt get good
>>>>>>>>> results,best result for me was this way.Can i ask what threshould 
>>>>>>>>> number
>>>>>>>>> you used for this images.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2015-01-08 14:30 GMT+02:00 Allistair <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well, I must say I am unsure why one image works for that line
>>>>>>>>>> and not the other. Clearly the addition of other lines of text is 
>>>>>>>>>> causing
>>>>>>>>>> Tesseract's classification system to go slightly awry - must be 
>>>>>>>>>> learning
>>>>>>>>>> something with the addition of the new text that it feeds back to 
>>>>>>>>>> the 1st
>>>>>>>>>> and gets it wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> However, I was easily able to get a perfect read on both of them
>>>>>>>>>> by performing a simple threshold filter (turning all text dark black)
>>>>>>>>>> before providing to Tesseract.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 8 January 2015 at 00:01, Gokcer Gunes <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> First original Image which sended to tesseract
>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Satır içi resim 1]
>>>>>>>>>>> Second Original Image which sended to tesseract
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Satır içi resim 2]
>>>>>>>>>>> and outputs are in image which you already saw
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-01-08 1:24 GMT+02:00 Gokcer Gunes <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> yes i will get and upload them asap
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-01-08 1:24 GMT+02:00 Gokcer Gunes <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah no its not noise there is no noise in original img it just
>>>>>>>>>>>>> result of crop in paint
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-01-08 1:21 GMT+02:00 Allistair C <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ah, I see - interesting :) The 2nd example isn't quite the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same - it seems to have some noise on the left hand edge. Also, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what PSM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are you using? Can you send original size images you send to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tesseract?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 7 January 2015 23:05:08 UTC, Gokcer Gunes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they are input image and output result ,inputs have same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first line but in first output M is correctly converted to M 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but in 2.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output M is converted to H
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-01-08 1:00 GMT+02:00 Allistair <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see the pictures, yes, but I don't understand the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> question. Can you elaborate in detail what the issue is?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7 January 2015 at 22:48, Gokcer Gunes <[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i uploaded them as pictures
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-01-08 0:29 GMT+02:00 Gokcer Gunes <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yeah resul pictures are in message you cant see them?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-01-07 23:56 GMT+02:00 Allistair C <[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your question is not self-evident, what are you trying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to ask? Can you present your OCR results for each test you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are conducting?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 5 January 2015 18:16:12 UTC, Gokcer Gunes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-QtKcTsT8fGY/VKrU2Bz4zZI/AAAAAAAAAD4/nCbru06vKac/s1600/testry2.png>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-FH8hQKrguns/VKrU0KDbMjI/AAAAAAAAADw/OMBj2VRxtyo/s1600/testry1.png>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Examples is at above,what i am doing wrong?
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