Okay understand ,thanks for great help and have a nice day:)

2015-01-09 0:21 GMT+02:00 Allistair C <[email protected]>:

> No they best you could do is look at one of the many config params to see
> if you can influence the engine, e.g disable adaptive classifier (not sure
> if that's possible or even beneficial) but whatever is causing your issue
> might be targetable via config but the config is not very well documented .
> If you wanted to feed line by line you would need to do that outside of
> tesseract and may be easier than the config method.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 8 Jan 2015, at 22:16, Gokcer Gunes <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> So not possible with tesseract?
>
> 2015-01-08 18:22 GMT+02:00 Gokcer Gunes <[email protected]>:
>
>> yes i mean yes like any point in space between lines,so i can say say
>> "crop area that between y1 and y2 points".Because i think tesseract able to
>> detect lines ,so i thought i can get mininum bottom point of first line
>> words and top point of 2. line words
>>
>> 2015-01-08 18:09 GMT+02:00 Allistair <[email protected]>:
>>
>>> No problem. Not sure I understand what you mean by detect points - a
>>> point to me is an (x, y) coordinate. Do you mean space? In any case,
>>> Tesseract is not going to do anything like that I think - you will need to
>>> perform image preprocessing to do that using Open CV or something.
>>>
>>> On 8 January 2015 at 16:02, Gokcer Gunes <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> And i did threshold too and i got same results with you for this inputs
>>>> ,but for some other inputs threshold causes them to recognize wrong such as
>>>> * recognizing as ' .My images recognizing great for single line and with
>>>> 1-2 mistake for multiple lines so i need to solve that.Thanks for great
>>>> response and i will be very happy if you can return me ever got idea what
>>>> causes that problem:).And also a last thing  can i detect points between
>>>> lines with tesseract to seperate image into multiple single line image?
>>>>
>>>> 2015-01-08 17:56 GMT+02:00 Allistair <[email protected]>:
>>>>
>>>>> :) I hear you, I do. From the input image perspective I looked at the
>>>>> 2 Kaliko words and they match at the pixel level. Some part of Tesseract's
>>>>> internal classification system is falling over a bit here, I cannot tell
>>>>> you why, I can only say that OCR is not a perfect technology. It works on
>>>>> machine learning and classification of probabilities. What seems simple to
>>>>> us is not necessarily so to the OCR engine. It could be that by the time 
>>>>> it
>>>>> gets to the 2nd Kaliko it thinks it has improved the 'l' recognition from
>>>>> the previous text to be a '1' - Tesseract has this adaptive classifier -
>>>>> but I am only guessing, maybe others have better ideas.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8 January 2015 at 15:24, Gokcer Gunes <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> and also why is that? i mean at 3. line there is both  KalikoImage
>>>>>> which is same,but first is correctly translated to text and second one is
>>>>>> with one mistake
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2015-01-08 17:17 GMT+02:00 Allistair <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It works for me with just the threshold and no scaling (however,
>>>>>>> there is an error in the 2nd Kaliko where the l is misrecognised as a 
>>>>>>> 1):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/523401/codethres.png
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Memorystream memstream = new MemoryStream();
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bitmap.Save(memstream, System.Drawing.Imaging.ImageFormat.Png);
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kalikolmage imgklk = new Ka1ikoImage(memstream);
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8 January 2015 at 14:22, Gokcer Gunes <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah with more size it works better and better but it takes more
>>>>>>>> time also thats why im only scaling 2x around.And can i ask did you try
>>>>>>>> with only threshold or threshold+scaling
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2015-01-08 16:16 GMT+02:00 Allistair <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Oh, I also scaled the image up to 2000px wide. Larger images often
>>>>>>>>> work better with Tesseract so a pre-filter or sampling up can help.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 8 January 2015 at 14:16, Allistair <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is the image I am providing to Tesseract
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/523401/code.png
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's your image with a quick threshold performed in Photoshop.
>>>>>>>>>> Notice that you need to ensure the threshold makes all text black.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 8 January 2015 at 13:47, Gokcer Gunes <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> i tried with threshold filters too but i didnt get good
>>>>>>>>>>> results,best result for me was this way.Can i ask what threshould 
>>>>>>>>>>> number
>>>>>>>>>>> you used for this images.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-01-08 14:30 GMT+02:00 Allistair <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I must say I am unsure why one image works for that line
>>>>>>>>>>>> and not the other. Clearly the addition of other lines of text is 
>>>>>>>>>>>> causing
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tesseract's classification system to go slightly awry - must be 
>>>>>>>>>>>> learning
>>>>>>>>>>>> something with the addition of the new text that it feeds back to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the 1st
>>>>>>>>>>>> and gets it wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> However, I was easily able to get a perfect read on both of
>>>>>>>>>>>> them by performing a simple threshold filter (turning all text 
>>>>>>>>>>>> dark black)
>>>>>>>>>>>> before providing to Tesseract.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8 January 2015 at 00:01, Gokcer Gunes <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> First original Image which sended to tesseract
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <temppng.png>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Original Image which sended to tesseract
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <temppng.png>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and outputs are in image which you already saw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-01-08 1:24 GMT+02:00 Gokcer Gunes <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes i will get and upload them asap
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-01-08 1:24 GMT+02:00 Gokcer Gunes <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah no its not noise there is no noise in original img it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just result of crop in paint
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-01-08 1:21 GMT+02:00 Allistair C <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ah, I see - interesting :) The 2nd example isn't quite the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same - it seems to have some noise on the left hand edge. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, what PSM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are you using? Can you send original size images you send to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tesseract?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 7 January 2015 23:05:08 UTC, Gokcer Gunes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they are input image and output result ,inputs have same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first line but in first output M is correctly converted to M 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but in 2.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output M is converted to H
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-01-08 1:00 GMT+02:00 Allistair <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see the pictures, yes, but I don't understand the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> question. Can you elaborate in detail what the issue is?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7 January 2015 at 22:48, Gokcer Gunes <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i uploaded them as pictures
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-01-08 0:29 GMT+02:00 Gokcer Gunes <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yeah resul pictures are in message you cant see them?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-01-07 23:56 GMT+02:00 Allistair C <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your question is not self-evident, what are you trying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to ask? Can you present your OCR results for each test 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are conducting?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 5 January 2015 18:16:12 UTC, Gokcer Gunes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-QtKcTsT8fGY/VKrU2Bz4zZI/AAAAAAAAAD4/nCbru06vKac/s1600/testry2.png>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-FH8hQKrguns/VKrU0KDbMjI/AAAAAAAAADw/OMBj2VRxtyo/s1600/testry1.png>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Examples is at above,what i am doing wrong?
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