finaly i was able to change it but no luck even turning off:( ,thanks for your time:) and if i send mail to raysmith about this problem, any chance will he reply?
2015-01-12 12:25 GMT+02:00 Allistair <[email protected]>: > Look up your platform's way of calling SetVariable. > > On 12 January 2015 at 10:22, Gokcer Gunes <[email protected]> wrote: > >> im using c# winform application,can i ask how to do that command in c#:) >> >> 2015-01-12 12:17 GMT+02:00 Allistair <[email protected]>: >> >>> Try turning it off to see if anything useful happens ... >>> >>> classify_enable_learning 0 >>> classify_enable_adaptive_matcher 0 >>> >>> On 12 January 2015 at 10:05, Gokcer Gunes <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> hi me again, is there any other forum i can ask about turning off that >>>> adaptive modifier? i mean people who deal with config parameters etc >>>> >>>> 2015-01-09 0:37 GMT+02:00 Gokcer Gunes <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>>> Okay understand ,thanks for great help and have a nice day:) >>>>> >>>>> 2015-01-09 0:21 GMT+02:00 Allistair C <[email protected]>: >>>>> >>>>>> No they best you could do is look at one of the many config params to >>>>>> see if you can influence the engine, e.g disable adaptive classifier (not >>>>>> sure if that's possible or even beneficial) but whatever is causing your >>>>>> issue might be targetable via config but the config is not very well >>>>>> documented . If you wanted to feed line by line you would need to do that >>>>>> outside of tesseract and may be easier than the config method. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On 8 Jan 2015, at 22:16, Gokcer Gunes <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> So not possible with tesseract? >>>>>> >>>>>> 2015-01-08 18:22 GMT+02:00 Gokcer Gunes <[email protected]>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> yes i mean yes like any point in space between lines,so i can say >>>>>>> say "crop area that between y1 and y2 points".Because i think tesseract >>>>>>> able to detect lines ,so i thought i can get mininum bottom point of >>>>>>> first >>>>>>> line words and top point of 2. line words >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2015-01-08 18:09 GMT+02:00 Allistair <[email protected]>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No problem. Not sure I understand what you mean by detect points - >>>>>>>> a point to me is an (x, y) coordinate. Do you mean space? In any case, >>>>>>>> Tesseract is not going to do anything like that I think - you will >>>>>>>> need to >>>>>>>> perform image preprocessing to do that using Open CV or something. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 8 January 2015 at 16:02, Gokcer Gunes <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And i did threshold too and i got same results with you for this >>>>>>>>> inputs ,but for some other inputs threshold causes them to recognize >>>>>>>>> wrong >>>>>>>>> such as * recognizing as ' .My images recognizing great for single >>>>>>>>> line and >>>>>>>>> with 1-2 mistake for multiple lines so i need to solve that.Thanks for >>>>>>>>> great response and i will be very happy if you can return me ever got >>>>>>>>> idea >>>>>>>>> what causes that problem:).And also a last thing can i detect points >>>>>>>>> between lines with tesseract to seperate image into multiple single >>>>>>>>> line >>>>>>>>> image? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2015-01-08 17:56 GMT+02:00 Allistair <[email protected]>: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> :) I hear you, I do. From the input image perspective I looked at >>>>>>>>>> the 2 Kaliko words and they match at the pixel level. Some part of >>>>>>>>>> Tesseract's internal classification system is falling over a bit >>>>>>>>>> here, I >>>>>>>>>> cannot tell you why, I can only say that OCR is not a perfect >>>>>>>>>> technology. >>>>>>>>>> It works on machine learning and classification of probabilities. >>>>>>>>>> What >>>>>>>>>> seems simple to us is not necessarily so to the OCR engine. It could >>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>> that by the time it gets to the 2nd Kaliko it thinks it has improved >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> 'l' recognition from the previous text to be a '1' - Tesseract has >>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>> adaptive classifier - but I am only guessing, maybe others have >>>>>>>>>> better >>>>>>>>>> ideas. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 8 January 2015 at 15:24, Gokcer Gunes <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> and also why is that? i mean at 3. line there is both >>>>>>>>>>> KalikoImage which is same,but first is correctly translated to >>>>>>>>>>> text and >>>>>>>>>>> second one is with one mistake >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2015-01-08 17:17 GMT+02:00 Allistair <[email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It works for me with just the threshold and no scaling >>>>>>>>>>>> (however, there is an error in the 2nd Kaliko where the l is >>>>>>>>>>>> misrecognised >>>>>>>>>>>> as a 1): >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/523401/codethres.png >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Memorystream memstream = new MemoryStream(); >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> bitmap.Save(memstream, System.Drawing.Imaging.ImageFormat.Png); >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Kalikolmage imgklk = new Ka1ikoImage(memstream); >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 8 January 2015 at 14:22, Gokcer Gunes <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah with more size it works better and better but it takes >>>>>>>>>>>>> more time also thats why im only scaling 2x around.And can i ask >>>>>>>>>>>>> did you >>>>>>>>>>>>> try with only threshold or threshold+scaling >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-01-08 16:16 GMT+02:00 Allistair <[email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, I also scaled the image up to 2000px wide. Larger images >>>>>>>>>>>>>> often work better with Tesseract so a pre-filter or sampling up >>>>>>>>>>>>>> can help. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8 January 2015 at 14:16, Allistair <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the image I am providing to Tesseract >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/523401/code.png >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's your image with a quick threshold performed in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Photoshop. Notice that you need to ensure the threshold makes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all text >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> black. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8 January 2015 at 13:47, Gokcer Gunes < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i tried with threshold filters too but i didnt get good >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> results,best result for me was this way.Can i ask what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threshould number >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you used for this images. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-01-08 14:30 GMT+02:00 Allistair <[email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I must say I am unsure why one image works for that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line and not the other. Clearly the addition of other lines >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of text is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> causing Tesseract's classification system to go slightly awry >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - must be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> learning something with the addition of the new text that it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feeds back to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the 1st and gets it wrong. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, I was easily able to get a perfect read on both >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of them by performing a simple threshold filter (turning all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> text dark >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> black) before providing to Tesseract. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8 January 2015 at 00:01, Gokcer Gunes < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First original Image which sended to tesseract >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <temppng.png> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Original Image which sended to tesseract >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <temppng.png> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and outputs are in image which you already saw >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-01-08 1:24 GMT+02:00 Gokcer Gunes < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes i will get and upload them asap >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-01-08 1:24 GMT+02:00 Gokcer Gunes < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah no its not noise there is no noise in original img >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it just result of crop in paint >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-01-08 1:21 GMT+02:00 Allistair C < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ah, I see - interesting :) The 2nd example isn't quite >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same - it seems to have some noise on the left hand >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> edge. Also, what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PSM are you using? Can you send original size images you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> send to Tesseract? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 7 January 2015 23:05:08 UTC, Gokcer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gunes wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they are input image and output result ,inputs have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same first line but in first output M is correctly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> converted to M but in 2. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output M is converted to H >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-01-08 1:00 GMT+02:00 Allistair < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see the pictures, yes, but I don't understand the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> question. Can you elaborate in detail what the issue is? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7 January 2015 at 22:48, Gokcer Gunes < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i uploaded them as pictures >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-01-08 0:29 GMT+02:00 Gokcer Gunes < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yeah resul pictures are in message you cant see >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-01-07 23:56 GMT+02:00 Allistair C < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your question is not self-evident, what are you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trying to ask? Can you present your OCR results for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> each test you are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conducting? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 5 January 2015 18:16:12 UTC, Gokcer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gunes wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-QtKcTsT8fGY/VKrU2Bz4zZI/AAAAAAAAAD4/nCbru06vKac/s1600/testry2.png> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-FH8hQKrguns/VKrU0KDbMjI/AAAAAAAAADw/OMBj2VRxtyo/s1600/testry1.png> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Examples is at above,what i am doing wrong? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subscribed to the Google Groups "tesseract-ocr" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this 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